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SteamWake 05-12-09 07:41 AM

Where fools rush in.. (Dem's & hearings)
 
Dem's. rush to hearings on interrigation hearings.

In their haste to Bash Bush (btw whom is no longer in office) they may stumble and be exposed for their own hypocrisy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ogation-memos/

mookiemookie 05-12-09 07:56 AM

I fully support these hearings, regardless of who they implicate. People need to be held accountable for this crap so that it doesn't happen again.

SteamWake 05-12-09 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1099894)
I fully support these hearings, regardless of who they implicate. People need to be held accountable for this crap so that it doesn't happen again.

I too fully support these hearings so that it will be pointed out that the Dem's themselves were not only fully aware of but approved of what was going on yet chastise the Bush admin for it.

Tchocky 05-12-09 08:58 AM

That's hilariously and depressingly partisan of you, SteamWake. Would you support such hearings if there was no involvement on the Democratic side?

Torture is wrong whether Nancy Pelosi knows about it or not.

SteamWake 05-12-09 09:01 AM

Im not going to get into the "I like torture" debate. Whom in their right mind would state "Im for torture !" for crying out loud.

This thread is about the hyprocisy and flat out bull **** that is being doled out.

Pelosi launches a pre-emptive strike

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22401.html

August 05-12-09 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1099927)
That's hilariously and depressingly partisan of you, SteamWake. Would you support such hearings if there was no involvement on the Democratic side?

Torture is wrong whether Nancy Pelosi knows about it or not.

He is no more partisan than you have been over the past year and you aren't even from here.

Tchocky 05-12-09 09:42 AM

I think being in favour of torture hearing just to embarrass a particular party goes a long way past my own bias.

SteamWake 05-12-09 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1099947)
I think being in favour of torture hearing just to embarrass a particular party goes a long way past my own bias.

No the point is not to 'embarress' them but to have their deceptive ways revealed to the general public for all to see. Enough of the 'Do as I say not as I do'.

AVGWarhawk 05-12-09 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1099927)
That's hilariously and depressingly partisan of you, SteamWake. Would you support such hearings if there was no involvement on the Democratic side?

Torture is wrong whether Nancy Pelosi knows about it or not.

Yes but this makes Pelosi just as suspect. Should have raised the flag then, not now.

Tchocky 05-12-09 10:14 AM

Just as suspect?

As the guys that ordered that people were to be tortured?

Waiting until your party has executive and legislative power mightn't be the most morally pure way to go about rectifying the cruel mess that was American Torture 2001-8, but it's not the same as ordering the cruelty in the first place.

SteamWake 05-12-09 10:20 AM

"Did Torture save lives?"

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmag...90425_8738.php

AVGWarhawk 05-12-09 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1099967)
Just as suspect?

As the guys that ordered that people were to be tortured?

Waiting until your party has executive and legislative power mightn't be the most morally pure way to go about rectifying the cruel mess that was American Torture 2001-8, but it's not the same as ordering the cruelty in the first place.

Quote:

The Pelosi camp’s version of events is intended to answer two key questions posed by her critics: When, precisely, did she first learn about waterboarding? And why didn’t she do more to stop it?


I never said it is any better or worse than those that ordered the torture to begin with. My point is she is just as suspect and a conspirator in this matter because she had knowledge that this was going to happen. She sat on her thumbs. The premise here is not who is right or wrong, the premise is this should not have happened. Plenty were aware of it and of those who were aware had power to do something about it. Nothing was done. Pelosi is more powerful than the President IMO and no flags were raised then.

August 05-12-09 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1099967)
Just as suspect?

As the guys that ordered that people were to be tortured?

Waiting until your party has executive and legislative power mightn't be the most morally pure way to go about rectifying the cruel mess that was American Torture 2001-8, but it's not the same as ordering the cruelty in the first place.

But if she was on the senate committee then she did have the legislative power.

mookiemookie 05-12-09 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1099970)

The CIA says "no":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...print/asection

AVGWarhawk 05-12-09 11:07 AM

I think the question here mookie is why was this not questioned years ago. Not whether it worked or not. Torture is torture no matter how you look at it and no matter what information is obtained, if any at all.


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