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Old 05-11-09, 06:58 PM   #1
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aattacking a convoy is suiscide even in 1939. There is no way to keep from being pinged all the time and no escape So i guess with this mod you have to look for single ships. bummer whats the point of convoys then. I mingh have to uninstall and play the stock version of the game
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Old 05-11-09, 07:33 PM   #2
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Where are you trying to attack that ´39 convoy?. Let me guess, east British coast, isnt it?. Dont try, in so shallow waters its imposible to evade the enemy sonar, not matter what you try. If you still feel the need to engage, try attacking at night from long range (>=3000m) so you still have the time to turn around in the surface and run while the escorts go berserk trying to find you.

If you are trying in deep waters (>100m), just move deeper, keep changing course and depth while follow the manouvers that you can find on the manual. Eventually you´ll get of the hook.

Dont give up on GWX yet, its a great mod.

EDIT: Be careful about what i said on night attacks and surface escape, if an escorts fire a flare on your direction, you´ll be toasted. To avoid this keep the hull down the water and show only the turret on surface, also while moving like that stick to 1/3.
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Old 05-11-09, 07:51 PM   #3
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Although I was a singleton hunter the convoys can be had it you attack with your stealth. It is obtainable.

Of course what am I saying I was the founding member of the "Second Patrol You're Dead Club"

GWX is a great mod and once you cut your teeth on a convoy with success all will be well.
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Old 05-11-09, 07:59 PM   #4
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I have never been willing to get that close to warships on the surface.
Still i was in 130m water in north sea and kept changing directions and they would just circle me and pingng me then keep depth charging me till dead. I hve yet to get away from a convoy
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I have never been willing to get that close to warships on the surface.
Still i was in 130m water in north sea and kept changing directions and they would just circle me and pingng me then keep depth charging me till dead. I hve yet to get away from a convoy
Any idea how many DD out there?. Against two of them (or more) things gets nasty.
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Old 05-11-09, 09:04 PM   #6
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There were 2 there usually is from a convoy
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Old 05-11-09, 10:04 PM   #7
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In 1939 and 1940, escorts are really not that good, so i think you must be doing something wrong. They should be considered green due to their lack of experience and they're not a serious threat at all.

Don't get me wrong, i got killed a few times too during that period but it is usually because i did something stupid and got punished for it.
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Old 05-12-09, 11:52 AM   #8
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aattacking a convoy is suiscide even in 1939. There is no way to keep from being pinged all the time and no escape So i guess with this mod you have to look for single ships. bummer whats the point of convoys then. I mingh have to uninstall and play the stock version of the game
what was your ordered speed? anything faster than ahead slow is a DD Dinner Bell

what was your ordered depth? The Deeper you go the better

were you rigged for silent running? this will stop all nonessential equipment on the boat making you silent or nearly silent

you should have absolutely no trouble evading DDs at 100+ meters in 1939 if you play your cards right
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Old 05-12-09, 12:14 PM   #9
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GWX wasn't made as an Arcade mod.
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Old 05-12-09, 03:26 PM   #10
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I would suggest reading the appendicies (sp?) in the GWX .pdf manual. There is a really informative section in there on how to conduct successful day and night time convoy attacks and how to evade escorts too. I would also suggest that you turn on "Map Updates" in the realism section if you haven't done this already. Having Map Updates on can really help you steer clear of escort vessels as it shows you their Asdic (sonar) ranges and arcs.

Yes GWX can be frustrating at first but I think that if you stick with it you will be glad that you did.

Good luck...
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Old 05-12-09, 06:12 PM   #11
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Hey, could someone tell me where these uber-destroyers are? They shure don't seem to be of the East coast of England. Intercepted a small convoy headed due south about 200km west of Hartlepool late 40. Went under with maybe 30m to the bottom head to head course. Took out the lead escort and fished to large merchants. Rudder slightly to port, not silent running, fished another frieghter, fished the escort comming in from the west at around 400m. Still loading tubes - #5 cripples the last escort, matched the convoys mean course - finish off the last escort. Surfaced and picked them off like a hungry wolf in a barn yard. Walked away with 57+, ditched the speed boat but took some light damage, pissin speed boat. 2 duds, that was irritating. Then I get transferred to Loreint. Great, I hate that port.
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Old 07-06-09, 06:39 AM   #12
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GWX wasn't made as an Arcade mod.

AGREED!!!!

I play on 94% realism (only weapons officer) and I love playing with GWX makes it so much more in depth and don't have a hard time, May 1941 and haven't been sunk....couple close depth chargings but that's about it and this is my 3rd campaign.

SH3 especially with GWX requires a lot of patience and planning to perform an attack especially on a convoy and if you haven't had much Sub sim experience take your time and you wil get it...
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Old 07-06-09, 07:26 AM   #13
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Yes especialy in 41 when I was spoiled by the easy pickings in 39-40.The last time i barely escaped with my life.All the tubes were destroyed , both diesel and electric enjines damaged.I think the escorts just resumed course after 1,5 hours of bombing, though their DC could have ran out aswell.

I had to float motionless for few more hourse around 220meters below surface before my electric engines were repaired.Not to mention the heavy flooding in the torp room that never actually stoped until i surfaced...
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Old 07-06-09, 09:20 AM   #14
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the mediteranean has good pickings, i am on i think a 75% dif (i'm not using manual, i have my wep officer, and i use free aim for screenshots), the water is usually around 200M so its safe for escape and also going to the bottom and repairing (always reminds me of das boot), and alots of task forces, i just got my second battleship. I started my career in 1940 on my ixb and haven't left since
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Old 07-06-09, 11:01 AM   #15
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aattacking a convoy is suiscide even in 1939. There is no way to keep from being pinged all the time and no escape So i guess with this mod you have to look for single ships. bummer whats the point of convoys then. I mingh have to uninstall and play the stock version of the game
You must be doing something wrong, I hunt Convoys well into 1943 with GWX3.0 100% realism. IXB/IXC can dive safely to 230 meters, you know. At that depth, you can easily evade DC's even if they know where you are. A few wiggles as the DC's exploding, and you will loss the DC within 10 passes.
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