SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-01-09, 10:45 PM   #1
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Max2147 View Post
If somebody mugs me because they hate white people, I think that's worse than them mugging me because they want my money. That doesn't mean that mugging me to steal my money isn't bad. Somebody who does that deserves to be prosecuted and punished. But I'm less scared of them than the person who mugs me because they hate me for who I am.

Hatred is a lot more damaging to our society and difficult to cure than the other things that motivate crimes.
It's not going to be cured by criminalizing human emotions.

Like I said criminal motivations are not so easily quantified. What if your mugger mainly wants money and only kinda dislikes white people? You could look at it as a hate crime while he only sees it as not crapping in his own back yard. The prime motivation was money but a sharp lawyer could make this a racial issue as well. That's not justice.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is online   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-09, 11:45 PM   #2
Max2147
Seasoned Skipper
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 714
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
It's not going to be cured by criminalizing human emotions.

Like I said criminal motivations are not so easily quantified. What if your mugger mainly wants money and only kinda dislikes white people? You could look at it as a hate crime while he only sees it as not crapping in his own back yard. The prime motivation was money but a sharp lawyer could make this a racial issue as well. That's not justice.
Of course, there's always a chance that it will be misused. But just because it can be misused doesn't mean we shouldn't have it. There's a huge potential for guns to be misused, but our Constitution protects our right to own them.

I personally think that hatred and hate crimes are a major threat to the fabric of our society, so I'm glad that the law recognizes them as a major problem that needs to be dealt with.
Max2147 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.