Equal justice for all is out the window...
 

And people say special interest is not taking over this country....

http://uk.reuters.com/article/usTopN...53S8IM20090429

Now we have special rights for Mexicans to Muslims. If you are white, male, and an upstanding citizen, criminals get a reduced sentence for attacking you, assaulting you, robbing you. If you are gay, female, black, or Muslim, they get double the sentence.

Welcome to the special interest country of America! The land of the decreasingly free! The land that used to be! The land that is at its end.....

-S

They wont survive to get sentences if it were me. :nope:

but this special interest stuff is major league bull sh*t

Well it's nice to know that violent crimes against W.A.S.P.S. aren't commited out of hate. I guess we're just that swell:up:

Where does the law say that crimes against WASPs can't be hate crimes? If somebody kills me for no reason other than the fact that I'm white, then it's a hate crime under this law.

Wong answer! You are white and male, correct? Sorry - no dice then. Your criminal attacker will get a reduced sentence automagically! It is written in a way to say that they will get an increased sentence for attacking speicific groups, but in reality, that is really a reduced sentence for attacking you.

I little clue - call yourself muslim and then things become equal once more. I read the original bill and it is said to have not changed, so this will work.

-S

Well, as much as you may want me to feel oppressed, I just don't feel it. If you're that desperate to feel oppressed, go ahead.

That does it. I've decided to remain white, male, and an upstanding...mainly the first two. I find that also gets me a special discount on my electric bill.

This reminds me about what South Park said on this issue in the episode "Cartman's Silly Hate Crime". :know: And now you know, and entertained!:yeah:

What parts of the law don't you understand Subman ?
All of them by the looks of it . But don't worry , that muppet Smith doesn't understand them either .
So to sum up there is no reduction of sentence , there is also no doubling of sentence for crimes.
What it means is that if you burn down a church you will be getting the sentence for arson , but if you burn down a church because you hate Chritianity you will get a sentence for arson and a seperate sentence for commiting a hate crime

Hardly the case Tribesman - all you have to do as a victim is say 'hate crime' - which is why it was never acting into law by sensible government officials until now.

Read up on it. You might be a bit shocked what you come across.

-S

One phrase in Arabic and this problem is solved!

Just convert to Islam and enjoy the special entitlements that you profess it offers in the USA. It's certainly a lot easier (and cheaper) than having a sex change.

C'mon Subman, you know you want to!

Erm, no. There have been federal hate crime laws for a long time now, to say nothing of local laws.. This one just broadens the scope of existing laws.

Existing laws or not they violate the right to equal protection under the law. Murder should be murder regardless of the motivation.

Murder is still murder in all circumstances regardless of hate crime laws. It's not like people who murder white folks are suddenly going to get off easy because of these laws.

If the hate crime laws aren't invoked for people killing WASPs, that means one of two things. First, it could mean that people don't kill WASPs for who they are. Second, it could mean that there's a problem of enforcement. Either way, it's not a problem with the law itself.

If you kill someone you hate them by definition. Attempting to make motive a crime will result in uneven and unfair application of the law.