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Old 04-27-09, 10:32 AM   #1
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question about GWX 3.0 Gold

hello great guys
i use GWX 3.0 Gold edition and have a high end system
i have dropping framerates when i am inside a convoy
how is this possible? i have a very good ATI videocard and it can handle the game excellent
can someone explain me this?
another question my engine did not work when i was north of a large convoy. After a full speed backwards order my engine started working
is this a malfunction? (i have malfunctions + sabotage on in sh3 commander)

(just sank a british S-class submarine)
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Old 04-27-09, 10:41 AM   #2
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Puter specs please ?
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Old 04-27-09, 10:50 AM   #3
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specs.

Core to Duo 2.71Ghz
Asus ATI based Videocard 1024 RAM HD 3800 series
Driver Packaging Version 8.561-081201a1-072271C-ATI
Catalyst® Version 08.12
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6891
2D Driver File Path System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Video/{6F14D9BB-8E8C-4371-B757-924C16C769DA}/0000
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0630
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.8304
Catalyst® Control Center Version 2008.1201.1504.27008
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6238
AIW/VIVO WDM SP Driver Version 6.14.10.6238

Western Digital Hard drive
2048 RAM memory on motherboard
Windows XP with latest service packs
ASUS P5 BE Motherb.
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Old 04-27-09, 11:21 AM   #4
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First... Welcome Aboard ( my bad manners )

Your rig should play it fine and have good fraps.

Alot of stuff running in background while playing maybe ?


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Specs are pretty good; SH3 runs on one core so your CPU is actually 2.7 which is a problem sometimes.
Since you have XP, I am not sure how much RAM your system could use; I think only 2Gb. If not so, adding some RAM might help.
Make sure you have enough virtual RAM, and perhaps tone down some of the frame rate killers (in my case it is anti-aliasing; my maximum is 4x)
Otherwise, I don't think you can do anything except mess with your video drivers to see if you get better performance. On my nVidea card, a new beta driver doubled my frame rate.
Near a convoy, the system is challenged due to the enormous amount of information which must be processed.
Your engines didn't work because of sabotage. Shoot the entire French maintenance crew when you get back to port.
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Old 04-27-09, 11:37 AM   #6
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Specs are pretty good; SH3 runs on one core so your CPU is actually 2.7 which is a problem sometimes.
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I too sometimes get this slowdown, interesting reading your thoughts on multi core cpu's. I have a quad core 2.4, do you know of anyway to force the cpu to use one core only, or should I say force the cores to combine their efforts so sh3 is making the most of the cpu ? I'm sure I've read somewhere this is possible, but I'm buggered if I can remember where

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Old 04-27-09, 01:10 PM   #7
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quadcore

when a quadcore has framedrops the GWX team should know this
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I too sometimes get this slowdown, interesting reading your thoughts on multi core cpu's. I have a quad core 2.4, do you know of anyway to force the cpu to use one core only, or should I say force the cores to combine their efforts so sh3 is making the most of the cpu ? I'm sure I've read somewhere this is possible, but I'm buggered if I can remember where

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From what I understand (and I am a novice) multicore processors require a different programing language; The C++ used by most apparently doesn't work with the multicores, or at least doesn't work well.

Most, if not almost all, current and past software programs don't, and cannot utilize the multicore.
I have a duo core and hope to be able to utilize the new programs that support it.
The same is true for the 64 bit programs, although the programming language currently used can support this OK.

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Old 04-27-09, 06:36 PM   #9
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Until, like IDSoftware did?
(They released the source code for Quake One under a GPL)
The Engine will not change.
It's not programmed to use Duo or Quad Cores.
You can assign Cores in Vista I think.
But not XP?

I run XP on a Duel Core at 1.7 GHZ
But the game falls back to half that.

Video intensive scenes, like Harbors and Large Convoys,
also start computeing the AI stuff.

There's where the slow down comes from.
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@ privateer

Thanks shipmate After some searching I found an article and a small freeware app to assign the cores over at Toms Hardware. Testing now.

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I can pm the url if you'd like.

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you mean to get all the cores processing on multiple cores CPU processors with GWX? (there is told GWX with SH3 only uses one core)
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you mean to get all the cores processing on multiple cores CPU processors with GWX? (there is told GWX with SH3 only uses one core)
Not quite, the app forces the use of only one core. In my case CPU 0. After reading the article at Toms it seems this can speed up the running application (SH3). Still testing atm.

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Old 04-28-09, 11:08 AM   #13
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you make me curious fubar

very curious about the results!
i hope you inform us all about the results mate. The framedrops are no fun but on my computer it happens now and then so it is not very disturbing
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@lakeskipper

By all means I will shipmate. Perhaps privateer or irish can point me in the direction of the most heavy action convoy single mission. Might help speed up my investigation a tad

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By all means I will shipmate. Perhaps privateer or irish can point me in the direction of the most heavy action convoy single mission. Might help speed up my investigation a tad

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Try HAPPY TIMES SM. Lots of ships and weakly escorted.
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