is there a way of controlling a subs floating angle?

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

well something else is going on with these subs because the balao, gato, and tambor subs will not change no matter what you do to the Obj_hydro - fr_ratio


must be a broken link between the Obj_hydro - fr_ratio because it acts like its not using that number.

all the other subs and the sen toku will change when you adjust the Obj_hydro - fr_ratio value.

the balao, gato, and tambor subs are the main ones i wanted to change and they will not move

i dont suppose you know how to check the file associations there?

I changed the sim file on the balao to .95 and the stern is underwater.

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

I changed the sim file on the balao to .95 and the stern is underwater.

oook, lemme dump files and start fresh

ok, the replaced files work now but, hmmm ....

to get the right level i had to use 0.875 and thats enough to make the other subs sit at 45 degree angle in the water so now the more important question.

whats this going to do to the sinking from flooding or rough waether operations?

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

ok, the replaced files work now but, hmmm ....

to get the right level i had to use 0.875 and thats enough to make the other subs sit at 45 degree angle in the water so now the more important question.

whats this going to do to the sinking from flooding or rough waether operations?

Did you change the verticle gc too?

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Did you change the verticle gc too?

no not at all but the center of gravity is different that the front to rear weight ratio

the concern i have is if this is a true balance point (you never know with this game lol) then when you add a little water to the boat from flooding you might spear into the bottom out of control?

so going from a stock setting of 0.5 to a 0.55 or a 0.65 isnt that bad but im going 0.9 for balao and 0.89 for gato and the tambor at 0.88

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by WEBSTER

no not at all but the center of gravity is different that the front to rear weight ratio

the concern i have is if this is a true balance point (you never know with this game lol) then when you add a little water to the boat from flooding you might spear into the bottom out of control?

so going from a stock setting of 0.5 to a 0.55 or a 0.65 isnt that bad but im going 0.9 for balao and 0.89 for gato and the tambor at 0.88

Wow. What if you lowered the boat 1/4 to 1/2 a meter draught wise. would that get a lower number to work for the gc?

When I tested it with one of my mods I had the Balao at 6.4 meters in the sim file for surface draught and the submerge draught down to 8.4. Changing horizontal to .75 put the stern down just a bit.

Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Wow. What if you lowered the boat 1/4 to 1/2 a meter draught wise. would that get a lower number to work for the gc?

When I tested it with one of my mods I had the Balao at 6.4 meters in the sim file for surface draught and the submerge draught down to 8.4. Changing horizontal to .75 put the stern down just a bit.

its tricky but i dont think changing the balance point is the answer because you change all the floating charactoristics and the subs reaction to sea state with it.

the minute you add any extra weight somewhere such as a flooding situation you get the sub acting like it has half the boat flooded.

i think this will have to be solved another way by tweaking the floatation spheres or whatever it is they use in the damage models to add or remove floatation levels and not by changing the float center which acts like you would be adding a ton of weight to one end of the boat. sadly i dont know how to do things like that.