Silent Hunter Survey! WTH?

[Hitman]

Smells like a SH5 survey under cover to me

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

< Pats LukeFF on the back... >

Congrats man. You've really shown your superior intelligence this time.

Now put your helmet back on and go back to licking the window. You missed a spot.

Let's not turn this into a flame war, Kap, ok?

Thanks to all who took a minute to fill out the survey

No offense to Neal but the Survey was generic and lacked any specifics.

No problem. The line of questioning is structured to collect unbiased results about the two SH games, not modded SH games. If you want to deliver a specific response, just send an e-mail.

cheers
Neal

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Then perhaps they'd be better reading the multitude of threads which discuss the personal requests of simmers here at Subsim.

No offense to Neal but the Survey was generic and lacked any specifics. Hell, with the answers I gave, Ubi could think that I want an eye candy, console based side scroller (if that was the intent of the survey).

Anyway, I based my answers on stock versions of both games, which actually means they both pretty much suck.

Absolutely...answer on the stock games. I believe that was the idea. Some questions were very general but all the same one just has to answer to the best of their ability. For the most part, the first thing that pops into your mind is usually the one best answer. If one starts to ask questions about the survey question all is lost on 'what ifs.' I would not say that any of the two games 'suck'. Straight out of the box (bugs not withstanding) both were good. Good enough for the gears in your imagination(and plenty of others) to start cranking out improvements and not just for a few months but years of work on it. If the stock game had enough pull to do that then IMO I think more credit then 'suck' is due. But as surveys are supposed to do....help with improvements so the 'suck' factor is not the first thing that pops into anyone's mind. But, more importantly you answered the survey and that is great!

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

The line of questioning is structured to collect unbiased results about the two SH games, not modded SH games.
Neal

That's cool then.

Unlike me , I suspect many will have answered based on their modded preference. Perhaps a small note at the start of the survey?

Ooh, and UNBIASED, are you kidding?:rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by danlisa

The average Texan, son, doesn't take a dump without a plan.

Our a good book or magazine

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Good enough for the gears in your imagination(and plenty of others) to start cranking out improvements and not just for a few months but years of work on it. If the stock game had enough pull to do that then IMO I think more credit then 'suck' is due. But as surveys are supposed to do....help with improvements so the 'suck' factor is not the first thing that pops into anyone's mind.

That's true, perhaps I was too strong using 'suck' maybe 'poor' would have been better.

My personal findings about both SH3 & SH4's stock versions were such that I completed about 3 patrols in each before I went looking for realism improvements etc. I expect a simulation to be accurate, not arcadish.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by danlisa

That's cool then.

Unlike me , I suspect many will have answered based on their modded preference. Perhaps a small note at the start of the survey?

Made the same mistake...

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by danlisa

That's true, perhaps I was too strong using 'suck' maybe 'poor' would have been better.

My personal findings about both SH3 & SH4's stock versions were such that I completed about 3 patrols in each before I went looking for realism improvements etc. I expect a simulation to be accurate, not arcadish.

I to want accuracy and not arcadish but games being what they are and players being who they are the demographics that the game must please for sales is huge. With that in mind, a game such as SH is introduced in a arcadish fashion to attrack the arcade type players but the key to the lock(well most of it) is offered for persons such as yourself that say wow cool game really arcadish but wait look at all these wonderful files let me see what I can do...bam...supermods of accuracy! So, in essence, the marketing folks just got a larger piece of the pie allowing aracade play and allowing files to be modded like mad. It is the best of both worlds for all involved.

Personally, SH3 to me was cool out of the box but was on the shelf after 3 months....I loaded it after about a year of not playing and then found GWX 1.?. That is all she wrote! Played if for a long time as a result.

[irish1958]

Originally Posted by Alex

Made the same mistake...

So did I. What I really wanted to say was that if the game couldn't be modeled into something like GWX, I would neither play or purchase it.

[nfitzsimmons]

Originally Posted by irish1958

So did I. What I really wanted to say was that if the game couldn't be modeled into something like GWX, I would neither play or purchase it.

I agree. I play mostly SH3 because of GWX. when GWX 4 becomes available...

[_Seth_]

No need to get naughty, fellows...Let's keep this one clean. Please..? Nothing to get totally wack-a-doodle over.. (Is wack-a-doodle a word, btw..?)

[ReallyDedPoet]

I just like that the game can be modded period, in all aspects. That and the realism settings ( especially in the beginning ) have made the SH experience for me an enjoyable one.

[danlisa]

Originally Posted by _Seth_

(Is wack-a-doodle a word, btw..?)

Hey mate! Check this out.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wack-a-doodle

[_Seth_]

Originally Posted by danlisa

Hey mate! Check this out.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wack-a-doodle

Nice!

[Onkel Neal]

Your wish is my command!

Supplement to the SH Survey

Danke!
Neal