Gang of villagers chase away Google car

UnderseaLcpl · 04-03-09, 11:37 AM

I agree with August. Firstly, the "recon" provided to potential burglars would be all but useless. The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. They are too dumb to do anything else.
A primary rule of tactical reconnaisance is to carefully monitor the area of operations as discreetly as possible over a sustained period, in order to establish patterns. What good would a single picture do that a criminal couldn't easily accomplish by themsleves in a more effective manner?

Secondly, the Government does this crap all the time, on a much larger scale, and it generates a startling lack of concern. If these peoples' concern is privacy, they are misdirecting their attention. Have any of you ever spied on a topless lady via sattelite? Neither have I

, but I have had access to sattelite surveillance with that capability, not to mention Millimeter-wave imaging (sees through clothing and some structural materials), Infrared (sees through damn near everything), and some other interesting information-gathering systems that I will not discuss.

In any case, which is more of a threat? Which is more perturbatory? A private company using camera data to provide a helpful and accessible navigation data, or a (admittedly part-time/half-mature) government employee like myself with too much time on his hands, with access to state-of-the-art communications and monitoring equipment? And God forbid that we ever actually decide we have something to look for.....

AVGWarhawk · 04-03-09, 12:29 PM

My kids have seen this car going by our house. My house is in a 3D drive by. I can see why they might object. It can give one the layout and make it easy to case a place for robbery.

SteamWake · 04-03-09, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. .....

Yea... sure... riiiiight.

Schroeder · 04-03-09, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I agree with August. Firstly, the "recon" provided to potential burglars would be all but useless. The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. They are too dumb to do anything else.

I wish you were right......

Aramike · 04-03-09, 02:43 PM

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I wish you were right......

He is. The vast majority of criminals are not sophisticated in the least. While there are indeed some very bright ones out there, most are not.

Who do you think is packing prison systems worldwide? The smart ones?

Linton · 04-03-09, 02:48 PM

It is the burglars in suits I am more worried about looking at my home.Oh Mr.Linton you have a nice house,we are going to double your council tax to pay for our index linked pension.They will be able to do this from the comfort of their office!

August · 04-03-09, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Linton

It is the burglars in suits I am more worried about looking at my home.Oh Mr.Linton you have a nice house,we are going to double your council tax to pay for our index linked pension.They will be able to do this from the comfort of their office!

They don't need to rely on Google maps for that. Don't know how it is in Britain but here in the states the local tax office not only has pictures of every house and property in their jurisdiction but also a complete description as well.

For example. Below is the Providence tax assessors database record of my last apartment. This info is available to anyone with an internet connection.

http://providence.ias-clt.com/parcel...l.php?id=24657

Now how is what google does any more intrusive than that?

XabbaRus · 04-04-09, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by August

They don't need to rely on Google maps for that. Don't know how it is in Britain but here in the states the local tax office not only has pictures of every house and property in their jurisdiction but also a complete description as well.

For example. Below is the Providence tax assessors database record of my last apartment. This info is available to anyone with an internet connection.

http://providence.ias-clt.com/parcel...l.php?id=24657

Now how is what google does any more intrusive than that?

I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government has not only a photo of my house but a picture of every room including my kids toys and one of me with the missus...

August · 04-04-09, 12:40 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government has not only a photo of my house but a picture of every room including my kids toys and one of me with the missus...

You know we love you Brits like brothers but there's a reason we went independent!

AVGWarhawk · 04-03-09, 02:49 PM

There are blue collar criminals who are your street thugs and strong arm people. Armed robbery, etc. Then there are white collar criminals that score big at homes such as these being put on video or crimes involving money laundering, Madoff/Ponsi schemes,etc. The white collar criminal could use these to case a very expensive home full of expensive things.

Aramike · 04-03-09, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

There are blue collar criminals who are your street thugs and strong arm people. Armed robbery, etc. Then there are white collar criminals that score big at homes such as these being put on video or crimes involving money laundering, Madoff/Ponsi schemes,etc. The white collar criminal could use these to case a very expensive home full of expensive things.

It's doubtful that the so-called "white collar criminal" will use Google in lieu of the more traditional casing.

It doesn't take a dated photo from a guy driving down a street to learn that a community is affluent and that there will be nice homes there. What else could a person possibly learn from said photos?

UnderseaLcpl · 04-03-09, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

It's doubtful that the so-called "white collar criminal" will use Google in lieu of the more traditional casing.

It doesn't take a dated photo from a guy driving down a street to learn that a community is affluent and that there will be nice homes there. What else could a person possibly learn from said photos?

Precisely, and as August pointed out, you can easily obtain much more detailed information from a variety of sources, including floor plans. In any case, I doubt that a google pic of my house would reveal what time I might be home or that I have gun.
All the smart criminals are politicians or lawyers or have political lobbies working for them, or all three. Everyone knows that

Digital_Trucker · 04-03-09, 05:17 PM

Personally, I think they should have held the car up just long enough to spray paint "Google Sux" all over the front of their houses and then let the car go.

04-03-09, 11:37 AM	#1
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I agree with August. Firstly, the "recon" provided to potential burglars would be all but useless. The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. They are too dumb to do anything else. A primary rule of tactical reconnaisance is to carefully monitor the area of operations as discreetly as possible over a sustained period, in order to establish patterns. What good would a single picture do that a criminal couldn't easily accomplish by themsleves in a more effective manner? Secondly, the Government does this crap all the time, on a much larger scale, and it generates a startling lack of concern. If these peoples' concern is privacy, they are misdirecting their attention. Have any of you ever spied on a topless lady via sattelite? Neither have I, but I have had access to sattelite surveillance with that capability, not to mention Millimeter-wave imaging (sees through clothing and some structural materials), Infrared (sees through damn near everything), and some other interesting information-gathering systems that I will not discuss. In any case, which is more of a threat? Which is more perturbatory? A private company using camera data to provide a helpful and accessible navigation data, or a (admittedly part-time/half-mature) government employee like myself with too much time on his hands, with access to state-of-the-art communications and monitoring equipment? And God forbid that we ever actually decide we have something to look for..... __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

04-03-09, 12:29 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,292 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My kids have seen this car going by our house. My house is in a 3D drive by. I can see why they might object. It can give one the layout and make it easy to case a place for robbery. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-03-09, 02:48 PM	#6
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It is the burglars in suits I am more worried about looking at my home.Oh Mr.Linton you have a nice house,we are going to double your council tax to pay for our index linked pension.They will be able to do this from the comfort of their office! __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

04-03-09, 02:49 PM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,292 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	There are blue collar criminals who are your street thugs and strong arm people. Armed robbery, etc. Then there are white collar criminals that score big at homes such as these being put on video or crimes involving money laundering, Madoff/Ponsi schemes,etc. The white collar criminal could use these to case a very expensive home full of expensive things. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	Personally, I think they should have held the car up just long enough to spray paint "Google Sux" all over the front of their houses and then let the car go. __________________ RSM-GIEP-Killflags-LV Tribute-Playable Elco __Peace be with you, Dave.