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Old 04-02-09, 12:14 PM   #91
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This is pure madness, how can an activity that calls itself sport ALWAYS change its results weeks later in the courts???
Trulli got penalty off something Hamilton did on purpose, then Hamilton dared to lie about it, why on earth wouldnt he be disqualified.
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Old 04-02-09, 12:54 PM   #92
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Trulli got penalty off something Hamilton did on purpose, then Hamilton dared to lie about it, why on earth wouldnt he be disqualified.
I don't critisize the penalty itself, but the fact that it is not done by a referee or a sports judge in that moment (As you see in soccer, basket, hockey, etc.) but instead DAYS or even weeks later, completely changing all results. What good is watching a race end now, if it can change so much in the following days??
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Old 04-02-09, 01:06 PM   #93
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I don't critisize the penalty itself, but the fact that it is not done by a referee or a sports judge in that moment (As you see in soccer, basket, hockey, etc.) but instead DAYS or even weeks later, completely changing all results. What good is watching a race end now, if it can change so much in the following days??
The evidence wasn't available at the time. The SpeedTV.com article that revealed that Hamilton was lying wasn't published until after the stewards handed down their decision.

Should the stewards have investigated the incident more thoroughly? Absolutely. But they were also being deliberately misled by Hamilton and McLaren.
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Old 04-03-09, 06:40 AM   #94
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Hamilton enjoys penalties:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...eding-in-pits/

Practice #2:

01 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:35.707 40 laps
02 F. Massa Ferrari 1:35.832 38 laps
03 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:35.954 40 laps
04 N. Rosberg Williams 1:36.015 39 laps
05 M. Webber Red Bull 1:36.026 36 laps
06 R. Barrichello Brawn GP 1:36.161 37 laps
07 J. Button Brawn GP 1:36.254 31 laps
08 K. Nakajima Williams 1:36.290 35 laps
09 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:36.397 40 laps
10 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:36.401 35 laps
11 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:36.515 30 laps
12 J. Trulli Toyota 1:36.516 34 laps
13 S. Buemi Toro Rosso 1:36.628 32 laps
14 T. Glock Toyota 1:36.639 29 laps
15 F. Alonso Renault 1:36.640 20 laps
16 A. Sutil Force India 1:36.875 36 laps
17 R. Kubica BMW 1:37.267 38 laps
18 S. Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:37.278 30 laps
19 G. Fisichella Force India 1:37.432 27 laps
20 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:37.930 37 laps
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Old 04-03-09, 06:50 AM   #95
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Tee hee hee, stupid LH.
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Bloody hell, this has been the msot exiting qualifying session in a long, long time.
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Old 04-04-09, 07:18 AM   #97
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Arrogance of Ferrari or technical problems with Massa?

Any opinions?
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Old 04-04-09, 09:19 AM   #98
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Neither, just an inability to realize how much the track improved during Q1 to put in a proper lap when trakc conditions were better. Silly mistake, but as Massa said himself, no one person to blame, a collective team f'up
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Old 04-04-09, 03:07 PM   #99
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It's really worrying to see Ferrari doing the same stupid mistakes that killed them last year

The FIA decided the championship with his punishments to Lewis, but had Ferrari not done the idiotic mistakes we saw, then Mass would have been able to have a decent fight for the title with Lewis even if the FIA hadn't screwed the latter.

Most annoying this Ferrari foulness
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Old 04-04-09, 05:38 PM   #100
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Bloody hell, this has been the msot exiting qualifying session in a long, long time.
Agreed. Used to be that Q1 was pretty much a throwaway 'cause you knew who was going to be dropped. Now it's up in the air, and there's little if any safety in posting a quick time early in Q1, evidence today.
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Old 04-04-09, 07:31 PM   #101
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Cool to see a website that has an off-topic forum with a topic dedicated to one of the three pinnacles of motorsport (the other two being MotoGP and World Rally Championship).

Hopefully, I'm not the only one here that hates that sorry excuse of a sport (if you can call it that), NASCAR, with a burning, undying passion
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Old 04-05-09, 02:32 AM   #102
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You mean Non-Athletic Sport Centered Arround Rednecks?

I think it is boring myself, though still have respect for the drivers and teams. While it is a completely diferent discipline of motorsport it still takes a great deal of driver skill and team tactical thinking to be successful there.
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Old 04-05-09, 03:36 AM   #103
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Granted, anyone who will willingly do 500 laps in what is basically a fuel tank with a steering wheel attached to it is a better man than I am. Still, I'd have a much higher opinion of NASCAR if the buffoons managing the sport weren't so insistent on racing almost exclusively on oval circuits. Its not like every track here in the states only has left turns; I think Laguna Seca is probably the most exciting and undalating piece of road in the world.
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Old 04-05-09, 04:09 AM   #104
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NASCAR sucks.

As on the topic, too bad about Kovalainen, sucks.
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Wohoo!! Heavy rain expected!!
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