Formula 1 2009 - Page 6

Falkirion · 03-30-09, 11:42 PM

Looking forward to Malaysia after Australia, usually get a good race thanks to Sepangs flowing layout

bert8for3 · 03-31-09, 07:45 AM

This is also pretty good on the tech stuff ... http://www.f1technical.net/ . Myself, I like the look of this year's cars, with some reservation in the case of the front wing which looks like a big snow shovel out front.

I see Malaysia is going to start at 5pm local time also. I guess it makes the timing better for the larger tv audience, but it's bad news for the drivers, you could see from the late stages of Melbourne that there must have been some pretty bad glare and light/dark areas. It doesn't leave much spare time either in the event of long delays.

XabbaRus · 03-31-09, 02:56 PM

Could anyone tell me what Piquet Jr is doing in an F1 car. I don't think he will last the season. Flabio isn't reknowned for his patience with drivers who don't perform.

Dowly · 03-31-09, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Could anyone tell me what Piquet Jr is doing in an F1 car. I don't think he will last the season. Flabio isn't reknowned for his patience with drivers who don't perform.

I heard Fabio had had a pretty colourful conversation with Piquet. Basically saying that having Piquet as lastname isnt enough to keep driving in the team. And I agree, he really is having trouble keeping himself on the track.

stabiz · 03-31-09, 06:10 PM

Actually, I dont think F1 has ever had as few replacements as for this season. The only new face is Buemi, who replaces Vettel, who in turn replaces the only driver who actually left: Coulthard.

Next season will se bigger changes, I reckon. Exit for Piquet, Barrichello, Fisichella and maybe Nakajima and Bourdais- and even Raikkonen might decide its time to drink more and give the middle finger to the media circus. I think Kovalainen needs a strong season too.

The only drivers (IMO) that can do what they want this year without getting sacked are Alonso, Kubica, Hamilton, Vettel, Massa and Rosberg. Oh, I accidentally put them in a not so random order.

Max2147 · 03-31-09, 06:36 PM

I think we might see Grosjean in the Renault race seat before too long.

Hitman · 04-01-09, 07:23 AM

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Could anyone tell me what Piquet Jr is doing in an F1 car.

Keeping Alonso happy and quiet

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I think we might see Grosjean in the Renault race seat before too long.

... unless he threatens to be as quick as Alonso

Max2147 · 04-01-09, 08:02 PM

Oh dear, looks like Lewis might be in a bit of trouble: http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...rjury-hearing/

VipertheSniper · 04-02-09, 06:01 AM

Oh don't you just love the inconsitency in FIA rulings? Trulli gets 25 seconds penalty for overtaking when the SC is out, and Lewis gets disqualified... couldn't they just let it be? After all they switched back to their positions... Or better give Hamilton a 25s penalty too. But NOOO Lewis gets disqualified for something another driver gets a 25s penalty. I'm by no means a Hamilton fanboy, but this is ruling is just what it is: CRAP

SO he lied about the reason why Trulli did overtake him, and yeah that's not good sportsmanship, but they are racing for points and I think would Trulli have been in the same situation, he probably would've done the same. Of course this whole ordeal could've been avoided if Lewis told the truth, but it's still a crap ruling...

stabiz · 04-02-09, 06:06 AM

Uh ... no way. When you lie to the stewards you better be prepared to get slapped. Hard.

Schroeder · 04-02-09, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Uh ... no way. When you lie to the stewards you better be prepared to get slapped. Hard.

Yep, let it be a warning to the other drivers/teams that they should finally stop playing tricks and go back to racing again.

Dowly · 04-02-09, 07:32 AM

Hamilton had orders to let Trulli pass during SC, Trulli though Hamilton had problems and overtook him. After the race, Hamilton lied to the judges that Trulli had overtaken him during SC and that he didnt let him pass on purpose. Serves the git right, I've never liked Hamilton because of his arrogant style, now I like him less than I liked Montoya. Hope he finishes the season on last pos and get kicked out of the F1.

HunterICX · 04-02-09, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Yep, let it be a warning to the other drivers/teams that they should finally stop playing tricks and go back to racing again.

Agreed!

HunterICX

Hitman · 04-02-09, 11:25 AM

Lewis and McLaren DISQUALIFIED

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...133847,00.html

What the .... ? If we let another week go by, we will see Webber (who crossed the finish line last) winning the race after all the previous competitors have been sidelined by the FIA!!

This is pure madness, how can an activity that calls itself sport ALWAYS change its results weeks later in the courts???

Max2147 · 04-02-09, 12:14 PM

The irony is that if the stewards in Australia had figured out immediately that Hamilton was lying to them, they wouldn't have penalized him for it. There have been countless cases where a driver/team's explanation for an accident is rejected by the stewards, which is basically the same as the stewards saying they lied. I can't think of a single case where the lie itself was explicitly punished by the stewards.

So Hamilton isn't really being punished because he lied, he's being punished because his lie worked.

The other irony is that the journalist (Adam Cooper of SpeedTV.com) who wrote the story that blew the whistle on this is a Lewis Hamilton fan.

And Hitman, F1 isn't a sport. It's a soap opera that happens to hold races every two weeks. If it were just a sport it would be pretty boring.

03-31-09, 07:45 AM	#77
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	This is also pretty good on the tech stuff ... http://www.f1technical.net/ . Myself, I like the look of this year's cars, with some reservation in the case of the front wing which looks like a big snow shovel out front. I see Malaysia is going to start at 5pm local time also. I guess it makes the timing better for the larger tv audience, but it's bad news for the drivers, you could see from the late stages of Melbourne that there must have been some pretty bad glare and light/dark areas. It doesn't leave much spare time either in the event of long delays. __________________

03-31-09, 02:56 PM	#78
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Could anyone tell me what Piquet Jr is doing in an F1 car. I don't think he will last the season. Flabio isn't reknowned for his patience with drivers who don't perform. __________________

03-31-09, 06:10 PM	#80
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Actually, I dont think F1 has ever had as few replacements as for this season. The only new face is Buemi, who replaces Vettel, who in turn replaces the only driver who actually left: Coulthard. Next season will se bigger changes, I reckon. Exit for Piquet, Barrichello, Fisichella and maybe Nakajima and Bourdais- and even Raikkonen might decide its time to drink more and give the middle finger to the media circus. I think Kovalainen needs a strong season too. The only drivers (IMO) that can do what they want this year without getting sacked are Alonso, Kubica, Hamilton, Vettel, Massa and Rosberg. Oh, I accidentally put them in a not so random order. __________________

04-02-09, 06:06 AM	#85
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Uh ... no way. When you lie to the stewards you better be prepared to get slapped. Hard. __________________

04-02-09, 11:25 AM	#89
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,110 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Lewis and McLaren DISQUALIFIED http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...133847,00.html What the .... ? If we let another week go by, we will see Webber (who crossed the finish line last) winning the race after all the previous competitors have been sidelined by the FIA!! This is pure madness, how can an activity that calls itself sport ALWAYS change its results weeks later in the courts??? __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-30-09, 11:42 PM	#76
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Looking forward to Malaysia after Australia, usually get a good race thanks to Sepangs flowing layout

03-31-09, 06:36 PM	#81
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think we might see Grosjean in the Renault race seat before too long.

04-01-09, 08:02 PM	#83
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh dear, looks like Lewis might be in a bit of trouble: http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...rjury-hearing/

04-02-09, 06:01 AM	#84
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh don't you just love the inconsitency in FIA rulings? Trulli gets 25 seconds penalty for overtaking when the SC is out, and Lewis gets disqualified... couldn't they just let it be? After all they switched back to their positions... Or better give Hamilton a 25s penalty too. But NOOO Lewis gets disqualified for something another driver gets a 25s penalty. I'm by no means a Hamilton fanboy, but this is ruling is just what it is: CRAP SO he lied about the reason why Trulli did overtake him, and yeah that's not good sportsmanship, but they are racing for points and I think would Trulli have been in the same situation, he probably would've done the same. Of course this whole ordeal could've been avoided if Lewis told the truth, but it's still a crap ruling...

04-02-09, 07:32 AM	#87
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Hamilton had orders to let Trulli pass during SC, Trulli though Hamilton had problems and overtook him. After the race, Hamilton lied to the judges that Trulli had overtaken him during SC and that he didnt let him pass on purpose. Serves the git right, I've never liked Hamilton because of his arrogant style, now I like him less than I liked Montoya. Hope he finishes the season on last pos and get kicked out of the F1.

04-02-09, 12:14 PM	#90
Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The irony is that if the stewards in Australia had figured out immediately that Hamilton was lying to them, they wouldn't have penalized him for it. There have been countless cases where a driver/team's explanation for an accident is rejected by the stewards, which is basically the same as the stewards saying they lied. I can't think of a single case where the lie itself was explicitly punished by the stewards. So Hamilton isn't really being punished because he lied, he's being punished because his lie worked. The other irony is that the journalist (Adam Cooper of SpeedTV.com) who wrote the story that blew the whistle on this is a Lewis Hamilton fan. And Hitman, F1 isn't a sport. It's a soap opera that happens to hold races every two weeks. If it were just a sport it would be pretty boring.