Vista fun

[AVGWarhawk]

Bloatware sucks.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Bloatware sucks.

Well you could just as easily have said Microsoft sucks.
They don't have a single consumer OS and/or application software that isn't bloatware.
Its a real pity that the only "usable" products are the server ones.

Even Windows 7 is bloatware, a nice shiny coat of paint over Vista and some inner tweakings. We will see how well they do when they dismiss completely 32 bit compatibility.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by goldorak

Well you could just as easily have said Microsoft sucks.
They don't have a single consumer OS and/or application software that isn't bloatware.
Its a real pity that the only "usable" products are the server ones.

Even Windows 7 is bloatware, a nice shiny coat of paint over Vista and some inner tweakings. We will see how well they do when they dismiss completely 32 bit compatibility.

The computer I had built came with the Vista OS and absolutely nothing else. No email come-ons, third party programs or other crap to sign up for. This is the bloat-ware that sucks and takes up hard drive space.

[Tchocky]

I use Vista Enterprise at work, and it's fairly easy to get a handle on, once you get settled. So you can mark that as a problem.

I get users complaining about Vista after moving from another OS, and the problems they're finding are usually those that existed in Windows XP/2k, only amplified because it's a new environment.

Again, the Vista I use and troubleshoot is Enterprise, the big daddy of the lot.
The girlfriend has Home Edition, and it drives me mad. Like driving a car with a compass and a stopwatch. I'm sticking with my XP Media Centre for the time being, mostly due to lack of funds for a new computer:P
I never can understand the tendency towards editions. Home/Professional should be enough. The business model of fewer features/lower price just doesn't work for an OS.

That said, how it takes Vista an hour to copy a GB or two is beyond me.

Plus point for Vista - It needs more RAM than XP, so RAM manufacturers vastly increased production in anticipation of a mass uptake. Which didn't really happen. Hence, lots of cheap RAM for us.

[kiwi_2005]

Vista's not a bad OS its better than XP imo, you just got to run vista on lots of ram and tweak it. Straight out of the box vista is bloated & if your going to do nothing about the bloatware well yeah your going to be frustrated at times. Beats me how techs complained about Vista but if they really new what they are doing they would know that all it takes is some tweaking of the OS and your end up with a sleek faster system than XP will ever be.

Before you even install Vista you should use Vlite this gives you choices on what you want to disable during install you will end up with a very fast OS

If can't be bothered doing that then once Vista bloat version is installed download and register with "Tweak IV Ultimate v1.0" (sept 2008) or later. This tool lets you tweak everything under the hood so to speak.

[CaptainHaplo]

There are so many things - mainly services - that should be turned of in Vista. Same with XP really. Especially in a home environment.

Not using a wireless system? Kill zen. Not sharing data between local pc's? Kill server. etc etc etc.

At least in 7 they FINALLY got rid of that freakin indexer! I hated that thing from day one - and finally it can be YANKED instead of just turned off.

[Digital_Trucker]

You mean you didn't like that "If you do anything with your computer, like use it for something other than a dust magnet, the indexer will not perform as fast as possible" message?