The Second American Revolution - 2076?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Well, I can certainly agree with the "non-representing representatives" part of the message. The real question is, will enough people wake up soon enough to apply the pressure necessary before it's too late to do it peacefully.

Thats the question


NO is the answer

too many Americans dont give a crap as long as they can get pre-approved credit for a brand new car or a big screen TV.

[NealT]

Correct...and that is why we are bailing out the banks and car companies.

My own opinion? Let them fail. After all, that is exactly what they would do to me...

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Thats the question


NO is the answer

too many Americans dont give a crap as long as they can get pre-approved credit for a brand new car or a big screen TV.

That was kinda the answer I was leaning towards, as well, but we can always hope that we're wrong about that.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Over the last 6-8 years, I am strongly leaning towards term limits for these a-hole politicians that seem to live forever in Wasington DC - senate and/or congress.

I am from Illinoios. I want that useless piece of CRAP [Dick Durban from Illinois] gone via a term limit. He's a useless sack of crap, and YOU are funding his BIG pension because the JERKS in my state keep re-electing him - along with your states Senate seats [of 2] - NO TERM LIMITS - are killing us. We "dump" a President in 8 years, but these local a-hole politicians last forever?

"WE/US the people" should have the solem right to get rid of these useless leeches.

The PEOPLE need to set term limits - NOT - the politicians.

1,000% agreed with this wise statement:

Originally Posted by NealT

My own opinion? Let them fail. After all, that is exactly what they would do to me...

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

Over the last 6-8 years, I am strongly leaning towards term limits for these a-hole politicians that seem to live forever in Wasington DC - senate and/or congress.

I am from Illinoios. I want that useless piece of CRAP [Dick Durban from Illinois] gone via a term limit. He's a useless sack of crap, and YOU are funding his BIG pension along with your states Senate seats of 2 by not having term LIMITS - this might be a good start - US the people get rid of these leeches.

The PEOPLE need to set term limits - NOT - the politicians.

If I were from Massachusetts, I'd feel the same way about Ted Kennedy. Well, actually, I feel that way about him now, even though I'm not from Mass.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

If I were from Massachusetts, I'd feel the same way about Ted Kennedy. Well, actually, I feel that way about him now, even though I'm not from Mass.

another good example.

Kill someones's daughter while drunk in the Senate on a "vacation" trip. No problem.

"We Got money" ... no problems what-so-ever ... Another 30 years in the Senate for you. Thanks Digital Trucker, forgot about that dirt bag too.

When the day comes, not one tear will happen here. CYA Ted.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Thats the question


NO is the answer

too many Americans dont give a crap as long as they can get pre-approved credit for a brand new car or a big screen TV.

I totally agree with this statement. As long as americans comfort zone isn't disturbed they don't care.

With the world economy in the crapper all things are changing..

[Enigma]

You want term limits, to what? Override the vote of the majority of your state? If the man keeps getting elected, clearly he's wanted....

[A Very Super Market]

Hee hee, he said "This is madness"

300 jokes aside, I actually agree with this guy, though only on the same principle. I believe that no country should be allowed to make itself the world's Teddy Roosevelt, especially with the examples of the US's problems stated in the video. In the short run, the US will have its reputation hurt, but as of now, there is no way Americans can uplift that reputation. Perhaps after a few years of US-centric policy, then the US will be ready to set a proper example, and not simply piss off random countries.

Still, when did diversity mean weakness? That is completely absurd. I can quickly list Canada as an example where two different cultures have co-existed very peacfully, compared to much poorer examples like Israel and the Balkans.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Enigma

You want term limits, to what? Override the vote of the majority of your state? If the man keeps getting elected, clearly he's wanted....

WRONG

I truly believe that most voters don't do their own thinking. That's why so many get re-elected... "straight party ballots"

Too many morons just select "straight rep" or "straight dem"

[Skybird]

I'd need a freeze if I want to visit that party!

[GoldenRivet]

Damned iPhone auto-word selection thingy

fixed it

[joegrundman]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

WRONG

I truly believe that most voters don't do their own thinking. That's why so many get re-elected... "straight party ballots"

Too many morons just select "straight rep" or "straight dem"

so do you think that people should pass some sort of test before being eligible for a vote?

[Enigma]

WRONG

I truly believe that most voters don't do their own thinking. That's why so many get re-elected... "straight party ballots"

Too many morons just select "straight rep" or "straight dem"

so do you think that people should pass some sort of test before being eligible for a vote?

Seriously....

What am I saying that's wrong? how can you call me WRONG in big old capital letters when my statement is accurate? People get re-elected because the people elect them. I'm wrong about this!?? If people want to vote a straight democratic, or republican ticket, they have every right to do so. It doesn't make them stupid.
Just because you don't happen to like the candidate, or his stance on the issues, does not make the people who voted for him idiots. It makes you the minority. That's all.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by joegrundman

so do you think that people should pass some sort of test before being eligible for a vote?

No, not at all

But I do think "straight party ballots" should be outlawed.

lets face it... congress holds most of the power, but the president catches all the heat when times are tough.

it has always been that way - and it is a nice distraction from the fact that congress is usually to blame for little problems our nation seems to face.

i think the voting process should be reformed so that if people are unhappy about their representative or their congressman etc - it should be easy and clear to vote them out of office.

for the time being, im fairly happy with my congressman, but thats for now... a year or two from now i might hate his withering guts.

if so... i want it to be easy and pain free to fire his ass.

Im with Lewinsky on his issue... term limits all the way. if we cant change the process by which members of congress come in and out - we need to have severe term limits.

Congress should be a revolving door.

we ditch the president every 4 years - those douche bags on capital hill should get 4 years too and then they get flicked like a bugger!