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Old 12-06-08, 09:30 AM   #1
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So there is an issue with the weather in GWX 2.1? I've noticed the same thing. Been patroling now for three weeks with steady 15m/s winds. All that changes is the wind direction and occasionally the visibility.
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Old 12-06-08, 09:42 AM   #2
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There has always been an issue with the weather in SH3, but GWX 2.1 improved it a lot, by incorporating Real Weather fix mod.
The same type of weather lasts longer if you frequently save/load the game. Also, weather changes more often in summer than in the winter.
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Old 12-06-08, 11:03 AM   #3
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There has always been an issue with the weather in SH3, but GWX 2.1 improved it a lot, by incorporating Real Weather fix mod.
The same type of weather lasts longer if you frequently save/load the game. Also, weather changes more often in summer than in the winter.
Absolutely correct.
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Old 12-06-08, 01:13 PM   #4
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Saved and reloaded only once because I had to go out, just had OLCE2 and Thomsen's water mod enabled but being unsure of what would happen when enabling the GWX alternative flotillas mod I disabled them for this patrol, which is why I want to check the files.

Also Thomsen is looking at the effects the mods had on my game and says there is something wrong so another reason to check the files are correct.

I had had no rain at all on that last patrol either

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Old 12-06-08, 01:49 PM   #5
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Stormy weather isn't all bad. It is possible to accquire, hunt and sink ships and convoys entirely by hydrophone, and escorts have a hell of a time finding you in those conditions. Plus, no planes !
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Old 12-06-08, 02:11 PM   #6
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Yes I know, I much prefer it for convoy attacking, sat a periscope depth once in after sinking a battleship while 9 DDs were circling my postion no more than 1000m-2000m and they couldn't get a fix on me

Anyway the weather itself is not the problem I am trying to establish whether my files for controlling the weather patterns are broken

Will I need to download S3D if I want to view the Scene.dat files?

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Old 12-06-08, 05:01 PM   #7
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I've heard it said that the weather 'rolls a die' randomly after a set amount of time, and it can A) Get worse, B) Get better, or C) Stay the same. If it's already at its worst (or best) it has a 2/3 chance of staying that way, instead of the 1/3 of doing any of the above. And, as said, that it resets every time you reload the game.

Don't know that it's true, but I've also heard some complain that it stays perfect for weeks on end sometimes as well, so that seems the likely explanation.
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Old 12-12-08, 09:39 AM   #8
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Stormy weather isn't all bad. It is possible to accquire, hunt and sink ships and convoys entirely by hydrophone, and escorts have a hell of a time finding you in those conditions. Plus, no planes !
How??? At some point you have to "see" the ship in the UZO or periscope to set up the targeting...no?
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Old 12-12-08, 11:37 AM   #9
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Most recent tests on weather (incorporating environmental work by OLC.....and also without) have both proven satisfactory recently in regard to the forthcoming GWX3.0 release.

No testing was carried out with any other 3rd party mod.

GWX players add 3rd party mods at their own risk.

Now it remains to be seen what GWX3.0 will include with regards to mods....if anything.
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Old 12-06-08, 10:10 PM   #10
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Saved and reloaded only once because I had to go out, just had OLCE2 and Thomsen's water mod enabled but being unsure of what would happen when enabling the GWX alternative flotillas mod I disabled them for this patrol, which is why I want to check the files.

Also Thomsen is looking at the effects the mods had on my game and says there is something wrong so another reason to check the files are correct.

I had had no rain at all on that last patrol either
Well mate, I can tell you for certain that OLC's work is good to go.

However, since you've added Phillip Thomsen's water mod on top... all bets are off.

Your problems are not specifically related to GWX 2.1 itself.
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Old 12-07-08, 08:06 AM   #11
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Saved and reloaded only once because I had to go out, just had OLCE2 and Thomsen's water mod enabled but being unsure of what would happen when enabling the GWX alternative flotillas mod I disabled them for this patrol, which is why I want to check the files.

Also Thomsen is looking at the effects the mods had on my game and says there is something wrong so another reason to check the files are correct.

I had had no rain at all on that last patrol either
Well mate, I can tell you for certain that OLC's work is good to go.

However, since you've added Phillip Thomsen's water mod on top... all bets are off.

Your problems are not specifically related to GWX 2.1 itself.
Yes sir Kpt. Lehmann, I'm am not trying to imply something is wrong with GWX2.1, I hope that is clear. I am worried that I have done something wrong during the process of enabling/disabling mods and broken my install. I just want to know if there is anyway I can check the files are as they should be.
Thank you.

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Old 12-07-08, 10:31 AM   #12
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On my current patrol, everytime I position to attack a convoy, it starts raining.
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Old 12-09-08, 10:31 AM   #13
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Saved and reloaded only once because I had to go out, just had OLCE2 and Thomsen's water mod enabled but being unsure of what would happen when enabling the GWX alternative flotillas mod I disabled them for this patrol, which is why I want to check the files.

Also Thomsen is looking at the effects the mods had on my game and says there is something wrong so another reason to check the files are correct.

I had had no rain at all on that last patrol either
I find the weather changeability has improved drastically since GWX 2.1. Having said that, I have had instances where for a whole patrol the weather has stayed relatively settled, i.e. no rain or overcast conditions but several changes to wind speed and sea state. I am currently using OLCE2 and did try Thomsen's water mod but that killed my frame rates somewhat so I disabled it. Because the water mod overwrites files in OLCE2 you get a warning from JSGME when enabling it saying that it is overwriting files already changed by OLCE2. If I understood you correctly, you mentioned that you disabled both OLCE2 and Thomsen's water mod to enable GWX alternative flotillas? I'm no expert in these matters and am happy for others to correct me on this, but did you disable Thomsen's water mod before OLCE2? If not it could cause problems in your installation and may be the cause of your unchanging weather issue. Just a guess though.

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