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Old 12-02-12, 05:11 AM   #1
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Hello everyone!

I finally got active on Subism, after reading it for a while.
I've got two questions:

1. I've got some strange problem (in SH3) with torpedo tubes hatches. From time to time, I cannot open them, separately from firing (i.e. the "q" key doesn't work). Normally, loading a previous save helps it, but I am a bit annoyed with crap. Had anyone encountered similar bug? What can I do about it ?

2. I recently turned on the event camera on, just to check my torpedo runes, for a sake of training. What I've seen, made me happy, as ma manual targeting proves quite alright, but very often my torp hits the ship, only to bounce off it, without exploding. After that, it drowns, hits the bottom, and then explodes. While it happens very often within 090 degrees shots, it is probably not the matter of angle being too wide, but also can it be a dud, if it finally explodes ? What makes them glance off?

Happy to get any answers.

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Old 12-02-12, 06:06 AM   #2
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1. If I remember correctly I have had this bug once or twice after trying to open an empty torpedo tube with the Q command. I can't remember what needs to be done to make the tube loadable again. I'd try shooting to "empty" the empty tube, and then diving to 50 meters and trying to close the tube again. Then I'd surface and try there as well. Maybe some-else remembers what needs to be done. (You do have enough crewmen in your torpedo compartments, don't you - once I tried to load a torpedo, but the crewmen were too fatigued for it)
2. I guess that's a dud, although I don't know if that kind of behaviour is realistic for a torpedo. I would think there could be a kind of "detonate at the end of the run so as not to detonate under a friendly ship later on" kind of mechanism in torpedoes that could work independent from the impact pistols.

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Old 12-02-12, 02:37 PM   #3
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Welcome to SubSim, could you advise what setup and mods (if any) you are using.
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Old 12-02-12, 05:00 PM   #6
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(snip)......very often my torp hits the ship, only to bounce off it, without exploding. After that, it drowns, hits the bottom, and then explodes. While it happens very often within 090 degrees shots, it is probably not the matter of angle being too wide, but also can it be a dud, if it finally explodes ? What makes them glance off?

Happy to get any answers.

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They did have massive problems with duds early on in the war, so maybe the sim models that same frustration. I know I've had a ship at point blank range, already wounded, and with 2 Torps left, only to lose them both to the bottom. I finally figured I was way too close for the Torps to be effective - as I'd imagine less than 50ft to be. In frustration - and having emptied my useless flak ammo at it - I took to ramming my adversary. All I ended up doing was alerting half the Atlantic to my efforts, so the British Navy could have a good belly laugh.

I'm not 100% sure but I'd imagine there to be some kind of delayed arming (as in the RPG) to prevent premature detonation, but as I say I can't be sure if I read that, or I'm just trying for an educated guess. It IS frustrating for sure to steam out to sea, wait hours then watch what is essentially just a big sausage tap gently on Tommy's hull.
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Many old WWII torpedoes didn't explod when hitting outside 70+ degree on the target, and when using a higher torpedo run in rough water, they exploded when lift off water and hit a wave!
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Old 08-04-13, 11:27 AM   #9
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Hello everyone!

I finally got active on Subism, after reading it for a while.
I've got two questions:

1. I've got some strange problem (in SH3) with torpedo tubes hatches. From time to time, I cannot open them, separately from firing (i.e. the "q" key doesn't work). Normally, loading a previous save helps it, but I am a bit annoyed with crap. Had anyone encountered similar bug? What can I do about it ?

2. I recently turned on the event camera on, just to check my torpedo runes, for a sake of training. What I've seen, made me happy, as ma manual targeting proves quite alright, but very often my torp hits the ship, only to bounce off it, without exploding. After that, it drowns, hits the bottom, and then explodes. While it happens very often within 090 degrees shots, it is probably not the matter of angle being too wide, but also can it be a dud, if it finally explodes ? What makes them glance off?

Happy to get any answers.

Take care
Wolfwind
The Germans had torpedo problems early in the war:

http://www.uboat.net/history/torpedo_crisis.htm

All torpedoes need to run 300m before they are armed, the exception being the Falke which requires 400m.
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Maybe I do not understand your question, but with the stock of sh3 when selecting a tube and you open it, switching tube with the "Y" (or click on another tube) has the effect of closing the previous one. But if you like you can do the following:

1. - Look for the "Commands_en.cfg".
2. - Open it and look for the following entries:

[Cmd309]
Name = Close_torpedo_tube
Ctxt = 1

[Cmd312]
Name = Toggle_open_close_torpedo_tube
Ctxt = 1

3. - Now, these should look like:

; [Cmd309]
, Name = Close_torpedo_tube
; Ctxt = 1

; [Cmd312]
, Name = Toggle_open_close_torpedo_tube
; Ctxt = 1

So you can have open several tubes without having to fire a salvo ... I do not know if this is realistic, commanders always fired a torpedo or a salvo. The idea seems to be of makman94.

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Old 08-06-13, 08:16 PM   #12
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Hello Wolfwind,

You need to have someone in the weapons officer position in order
to get messages such as "tube opened" and "tube fired" in the
news scroll.

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