subs on rails , again!

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 04:55 PM

Check the 3rd video on the website.

http://www.marinesims.de/wbb2/thread...a79a4f04a5431b

Why did they keep the horrific subs on rails again! I,m pretty positive about sh-5 but this is something that has GOT to go! I mean why is it so hard to get this right. The community did for sh-4 ! Well guess yet another task for the modders!

Platapus · 02-28-10, 04:58 PM

What do you mean by "subs on rails"? I am not familiar with that term

Dowly · 02-28-10, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

What do you mean by "subs on rails"? I am not familiar with that term

The boat goes through the waves, instead of riding them.

TH0R · 02-28-10, 04:58 PM

It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about.

Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about.

Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

Actually sh-3 did not have subs on rails. It was first introduced with sh-4 . Think of it a boat alsway rides the waves depended on the size and weight. A u-boat is relativly light for a boat and isnt that big either. There for it should ride the waves insted ot going throught them. And it the video it doing exacly not that. I mean seriouslt dont tell me you havent seen das boot?

TH0R · 02-28-10, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

Actually sh-3 did not have subs on rails. It was first introduced with sh-4 . Think of it a boat alsway rides the waves depended on the size and weight. A u-boat is relativly light for a boat and isnt that big either. There for it should ride the waves insted ot going throught them. And it the video it doing exacly not that. I mean seriouslt dont tell me you havent seen das boot?

Don't use the Das Boot reference, please.

The model they used there was 6m long - scene shot in a real ocean. What I saw looked more like Das Boot.

oscar19681 · 02-28-10, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R

Don't use the Das Boot reference, please.

The model they used there was 6m long - scene shot in a real ocean. What I saw looked more like Das Boot.

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves. The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost horizontal when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

TH0R · 02-28-10, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves. The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost vertical when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

I miss understood you. You should have clarified that the horizontal-axial tilting isn't representing the proper sub motion in big waves.

On that I have to agree. The 'rails issue' from SH4 and now obviously SH5 is probably related to the 3D waves (wakes) IMO. But I might be wrong...

Sailor Steve · 02-28-10, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

I have to do disagree. Even thought the model from das boot was only 6 meters long it still ride the waves.

I think that was his point. That model rode so well because it was so small.

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The footage in sh-5 keeps the boat almost vertical when it takes a wave. You can also find some real footage on youtube to see how a u-boat reacts on heavier seas .

I think you mean horizontal. Vertical would be standing on end. On the other hand I haven't seen a video with the boat completely out of the water, a la SH4. The video boat seems to be surging quite a bit (straight up and down), but not enough pitch.

Hopefully that's another thing they made easily adjustable.

Dowly · 02-28-10, 04:59 PM

They are rushing the games. They should take their time, get a new engine out or give the existing one a huge overhaul. Tho, I imagine the suits at Ubi have their hands on this and keeping the pressure on the devs to keep pumping out the games if they want publish via them.

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oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	subs on rails , again! Check the 3rd video on the website. http://www.marinesims.de/wbb2/thread...a79a4f04a5431b Why did they keep the horrific subs on rails again! I,m pretty positive about sh-5 but this is something that has GOT to go! I mean why is it so hard to get this right. The community did for sh-4 ! Well guess yet another task for the modders! __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

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TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	It is the same game engine as in previous two titles. So nothing to be surprised about. Actually I find the sub movement in rough seas the most realistic so far, be it on rails or not.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	They are rushing the games. They should take their time, get a new engine out or give the existing one a huge overhaul. Tho, I imagine the suits at Ubi have their hands on this and keeping the pressure on the devs to keep pumping out the games if they want publish via them.