Do we really need a Silent Hunter 6?

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Highbury

Well I just don't think patrolling around for months on end with no enemy and no war sounds very fun.

COLD War means no shooting.. you would need fiction as a starting point to make it interesting, and that bodes ill for a "simulation".. just look at SHV 1.0

Well, it would have to be a 'what if' scenario, as with many flight sims. It could work, but I'm not sure how popular it would be, especially when compared to that of U-boats.

Originally Posted by Highbury

That is ignoring the fact that alot of what is in a modern nuclear sub is still classified, so the simulation itself would be less then true to life.

Exactly. We have a rough idea, but the details are somewhat sketchy.

[ERPP8]

Originally Posted by Highbury

Well I just don't think patrolling around for months on end with no enemy and no war sounds very fun.

COLD War means no shooting.. you would need fiction as a starting point to make it interesting, and that bodes ill for a "simulation".. just look at SHV 1.0

That is ignoring the fact that alot of what is in a modern nuclear sub is still classified, so the simulation itself would be less then true to life.

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Well, it would have to be a 'what if' scenario, as with many flight sims. It could work, but I'm not sure how popular it would be, especially when compared to that of U-boats.

Exactly. We have a rough idea, but the details are somewhat sketchy.

It's just the limit of technology is so much I wish more new concepts like homing torpedoes, harpoons and missiles.

[Sonarman]

Originally Posted by Highbury

COLD War means no shooting.. you would need fiction as a starting point to make it interesting, and that bodes ill for a "simulation".. just look at SHV 1.0

Oh, I don't know about that I lost countless hours of my teenage years in Microprose's Red Storm Rising, it seemed pretty engaging to me.

It was the kind of game that you would sit down with, thinking five minutes had passed when it was actually six hours, the true mark of playability and engagement in any game.

I think what we really need now is a new surface game in the mold of Destroyer command or the classic and much loved Microprose title "Task Force 1942"

[SabreHawk]

Hmmm, well isn't "Dangerous Waters" a modern sub warfare game? Even if a might dated by comparison.
http://us.boonty.com/download/dangerous-waters.html

[Armistead]

We all know what the perfect subsim should be and Ubi will never do it. I would love to see SH6 PTO, but not as a new game, but a future mod. Hopefully DRM will be dropped in about 6 months when the game no longer sells...

My guess is the next addon will be to finish the war with Uboats, then maybe a game in the future. Hopefully it will work by then and I will buy it.

I would love to think the modders can do a fleetboats with SH5..correctly

[janh]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

I think what we really need now is a new surface game in the mold of Destroyer command or the classic and much loved Microprose title "Task Force 1942"

If done right, I am surely in for that. But it needs a good campaign mode, and not only a single AO with little going on...

[scrapser]

Since all the Silent Hunter releases are built off each other, I think what is needed is for Ubisoft to invest in fixng the core code and clean up a lot of the problems that keep reappearing. I'm pretty sure the code used can be encapsulated so aspects that apply to any submarine simulation can be finalized, never needing further adjustments.

A good example is the logic controlling the targeting of a torpedo. This is trigonomety. The only thing that changes are distances and speed and whether to use meters or yards. Another would be logic that controls how the submarine moves through water at the surface or submerged. This could also apply to all ships and aircraft. The only thing that changes are the physical size and weight of each platform.

I can see where a new technology may cause something to be tweaked to incorporate changes but I don't think the problems we have seen in the series are due to that alone. Anyway, if Ubisoft wants to be "the" sub sim source, they should pay the genre its due and stop pumping out half baked code and expect everyone else to fix it. Sure programs will be modded but it should not be to fix basic problems that have been known for years on end.

[CWorth]

Originally Posted by ERPP8

I would love a modern nuclear sub simulator.
BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES!!!!!

Your not the only one.

I would love to see a real good modern submarine simulator come out.

To be honest as fun as SH3 and SH4 are I am getting tired of WW2 based sims.After awhile it just gets to become more of the same ole same ole we had before just fancier graphics.

[ERPP8]

Originally Posted by CWorth

Your not the only one.

I would love to see a real good modern submarine simulator come out.

To be honest as fun as SH3 and SH4 are I am getting tired of WW2 based sims.After awhile it just gets to become more of the same ole same ole we had before just fancier graphics.

That's exactly how I feel.
All of the low realism things in SHIII SHIV and SHV are more or less real:
Fuel: Nuclear Reactor (never runs out)
Carbon Dioxide: They filter it out
Batteries: Charge under Water
Torp loading time:FAST
Manual Targeting: Your crew does it
Etc...

[Commie]

A new surface war game would be the dog's bollocks. I want battleships and cruisers! 1900-1945 with a preference for hypothetical and real conflict from before the carrier age.

[Zedi]

SH6 should be a MMO. They gives us the map and boats, we shape the conflicts. Would be nice that all of us can play/share the same map in real time, so we can form real wolfpacks and play against real players, not some retard AI. At least this drm thingie would have a good purpose then.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You know, we have Silent Hunter III with the truly excellent Grey Wolves Expansion mod. We have Silent Hunter IV and the excellent mods to both the fleet boat game and the U Boat game. Now we have Silent Hunter 5, which by the end of the year will be a heavily modded and very playable game.

I personally wouldn't mind at all if we didn't see another WWII sub sim for 3 or 4 years. At that point, either Ubisoft could release another one, hopefully having learned something from the SH5 fiasco, or there may even be a new interested Publisher by then.

I think the last thing we need is 'Silent Hunter 6 Fiasco in the Pacific' about 12 months down the line.

No, whats needed is not another WW II subsim.
Whats needed are core improvements to the gaming experience of WW II subsims. And this is NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS. How about freaking improving multiplayer ? Giving the ability to several players to man a sub ? Or how about having a new destroyer command ? Human controlled destroyers protecting AI convoys against human controlled wolfpacks.
Ubisoft has clearly demonstrated that they could care less about improving the product than milking it to its death. Thats what they've done with SH 4 and SH 5. The giant quantum leap between SH 2 and SH 3 has not been replicated either with SH 4 or Sh 5. And even so, SH 2+ Destroyer Command is a step up in terms of multiplayer experience over Sh3/4 and 5. There is only so much you can do against a stupid AI. Even a clever AI at the end is predictible, something a human player is not.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

You know, we have Silent Hunter III with the truly excellent Grey Wolves Expansion mod. We have Silent Hunter IV and the excellent mods to both the fleet boat game and the U Boat game. Now we have Silent Hunter 5, which by the end of the year will be a heavily modded and very playable game.

I personally wouldn't mind at all if we didn't see another WWII sub sim for 3 or 4 years. At that point, either Ubisoft could release another one, hopefully having learned something from the SH5 fiasco, or there may even be a new interested Publisher by then.

I think the last thing we need is 'Silent Hunter 6 Fiasco in the Pacific' about 12 months down the line.

i think ubi or some dev. should go for WWI U-Boats - yes i know its been done, but maybe in the SH series - coz sooner or later it will do a C.O.D MOD-WAREFARE type thingy and go allllll modern.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by flag4

i think ubi or some dev. should go for WWI U-Boats - yes i know its been done, but maybe in the SH series - coz sooner or later it will do a C.O.D MOD-WAREFARE type thingy and go allllll modern.

I think Ubisoft should stick with Prince of Persia.

[alexradu89]

Originally Posted by IanC

I think Ubisoft should stick with Prince of Persia.

And Assassin's Creed