Do we really need a Silent Hunter 6?

Sonarman · 03-26-10, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Highbury

COLD War means no shooting.. you would need fiction as a starting point to make it interesting, and that bodes ill for a "simulation".. just look at SHV 1.0

Oh, I don't know about that I lost countless hours of my teenage years in Microprose's Red Storm Rising, it seemed pretty engaging to me.

It was the kind of game that you would sit down with, thinking five minutes had passed when it was actually six hours, the true mark of playability and engagement in any game.

I think what we really need now is a new surface game in the mold of Destroyer command or the classic and much loved Microprose title "Task Force 1942"

SabreHawk · 03-26-10, 07:10 PM

Hmmm, well isn't "Dangerous Waters" a modern sub warfare game? Even if a might dated by comparison.
http://us.boonty.com/download/dangerous-waters.html

Armistead · 03-26-10, 08:10 PM

We all know what the perfect subsim should be and Ubi will never do it. I would love to see SH6 PTO, but not as a new game, but a future mod. Hopefully DRM will be dropped in about 6 months when the game no longer sells...

My guess is the next addon will be to finish the war with Uboats, then maybe a game in the future. Hopefully it will work by then and I will buy it.

I would love to think the modders can do a fleetboats with SH5..correctly

janh · 03-26-10, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

I think what we really need now is a new surface game in the mold of Destroyer command or the classic and much loved Microprose title "Task Force 1942"

If done right, I am surely in for that. But it needs a good campaign mode, and not only a single AO with little going on...

scrapser · 03-28-10, 08:45 AM

Since all the Silent Hunter releases are built off each other, I think what is needed is for Ubisoft to invest in fixng the core code and clean up a lot of the problems that keep reappearing. I'm pretty sure the code used can be encapsulated so aspects that apply to any submarine simulation can be finalized, never needing further adjustments.

A good example is the logic controlling the targeting of a torpedo. This is trigonomety. The only thing that changes are distances and speed and whether to use meters or yards. Another would be logic that controls how the submarine moves through water at the surface or submerged. This could also apply to all ships and aircraft. The only thing that changes are the physical size and weight of each platform.

I can see where a new technology may cause something to be tweaked to incorporate changes but I don't think the problems we have seen in the series are due to that alone. Anyway, if Ubisoft wants to be "the" sub sim source, they should pay the genre its due and stop pumping out half baked code and expect everyone else to fix it. Sure programs will be modded but it should not be to fix basic problems that have been known for years on end.

tonibamestre · 03-29-10, 02:21 AM

So.......what do you tell me if next SH was built FS style? I mean basically being able to choose start location,ports and exact pier,type of vessel,and meteorological conditions.Of course a lot of resources are needed in order to implement an accurate selectable weather-sea state but my opinnion is that would be well worth.

03-26-10, 07:10 PM	#2
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Hmmm, well isn't "Dangerous Waters" a modern sub warfare game? Even if a might dated by comparison. http://us.boonty.com/download/dangerous-waters.html __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

03-28-10, 08:45 AM	#5
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Since all the Silent Hunter releases are built off each other, I think what is needed is for Ubisoft to invest in fixng the core code and clean up a lot of the problems that keep reappearing. I'm pretty sure the code used can be encapsulated so aspects that apply to any submarine simulation can be finalized, never needing further adjustments. A good example is the logic controlling the targeting of a torpedo. This is trigonomety. The only thing that changes are distances and speed and whether to use meters or yards. Another would be logic that controls how the submarine moves through water at the surface or submerged. This could also apply to all ships and aircraft. The only thing that changes are the physical size and weight of each platform. I can see where a new technology may cause something to be tweaked to incorporate changes but I don't think the problems we have seen in the series are due to that alone. Anyway, if Ubisoft wants to be "the" sub sim source, they should pay the genre its due and stop pumping out half baked code and expect everyone else to fix it. Sure programs will be modded but it should not be to fix basic problems that have been known for years on end. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

03-26-10, 08:10 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	We all know what the perfect subsim should be and Ubi will never do it. I would love to see SH6 PTO, but not as a new game, but a future mod. Hopefully DRM will be dropped in about 6 months when the game no longer sells... My guess is the next addon will be to finish the war with Uboats, then maybe a game in the future. Hopefully it will work by then and I will buy it. I would love to think the modders can do a fleetboats with SH5..correctly

03-29-10, 02:21 AM	#6
tonibamestre 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 271 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	So.......what do you tell me if next SH was built FS style? I mean basically being able to choose start location,ports and exact pier,type of vessel,and meteorological conditions.Of course a lot of resources are needed in order to implement an accurate selectable weather-sea state but my opinnion is that would be well worth.