No wonder Obama draws large crowds to his rallys

[asanovic7]

I am trying to say something in this forums, but alas, I am so much ignored and ridiculed.
But that doesn't stop me from talking s..t yet again. And yes, my english is bad. I do not care..
I have a question..
Is any american, are they any, that take time to watch and listen to those slimy debates in your "our economy is wrecked, we are into two wars, LOOSING, so let's make this elections mighty important" presidential elections?

It cannot get into my head how come anyone who listened those two guys can even compare them? I mean, do you even listen to Mccain and then count his mentioning of Reagan? How many times he says "I was a soldier in those times"?
Why do you think unconditioned talks with Iran are not possible? What that guy thinks, that americans are some kind of gods or God given country so that ahmadinejad has to obey your laws or else americans will nuke him.
That is why I think Obama is better. He is the only one(not even damn Moore sucker) who mentioned that USA currently holds dictators all over the world by the principle "if he is ours we support him". He tells war against terrorism in Iraq is bollocks. Has any american even listened to the man?
A little detour..
Really funny to me about american elections is to check out how cruel americans can be and to watch their media censorship, :rotfl: AMERICAN freedom of the press.
I mean, talking about the war in Iraq "that failed because it did not stop terrorism, we pay fuel more(!?), over 4000 our brave troopers(those people are payed to die) died there etc." is a great way of talking "if we are loosing that is not good, how can we the great loose a war,let's kill our leader". That's from Moore. On CNN you can watch "war in Afghanistan" broadcast. And there you see a guy talking how american troops help people in Afghanistan and people love them and so on. It is not odd to me. The odd thing is that a guy is standing next to a big cannon contantly fired by american soldier. Very nice help. In other words "let's tear your country down and give you democracy, Madonna and coca cola and then let us rebuild it and take even your soil but sorry we have to take also your gas, oil and whatever money you have". Very nice.
Let's lift censorship and talk about this(I am genuinely interested to hear any american, his opinion on this).. What this? This..
Your brave troopers throw or lay nuclear waste from your nuclear plants on Iraqis and whatever stands in american way, your brave troopers guard opium fields in Afghanistan(it seems to me americans are drug dealing all over the world, your brave troopers guard oil rigs and everything connected to oil, your brave troopers kill people all the time, your brave troopers don't hold more than 1/3 of Afghanistan(I know a guy who was in Afghanistan to add to american s..y cause) ETC. And that is not even mentioning south america or every godamn part of this world where americans are present in any way.
The point is..
American are not God made nation so that they can lay toxic waste on others because you pay 4 dollars for a gallon!?
In other words, Putin maybe is a son of a bitch, but he speaks truth when he talks that americans are hypocrits. How can americans tell russians they cannot invade georgia when they are tearing one half of the world allready.. And they present it "that is the way GOD WANTS"!?!? And after all, when will majority of americans understand that 9/11 was done by american governement?

That is why Obama is great to us nonamericans because he doesn't speak like "I am God because God is an american". He looks like an almost honest guy. He talks way better than that vietnam soldier(OH kgb and mia together to rule the world) who cannot comprehense or rather admitt that americans sent their loved one to a war in Vietnam to kill people for nothing other than to get rich their s..y governement and army a...s although as it looks to me, he represents great number of americans whose only opinion on vietnam war or any american war is "we are not sorry we invaded vietnam, we are sorry we lost, we should have won". Or better a quote from a movie "when you kill them in accident of however, you say.. Sorry"


I don't care if you ban me, cut me or ridicule me.. Whatever pleases you..

I wanted to say these thing to the americans. On a forum of my favorite game. You are not "Gods" and your governement kills people, but not for you although in your name.
Obama could make it "less worse"..

You should think about that.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by asanovic7

I am trying to say something in this forums, but alas, I am so much ignored and ridiculed.
But that doesn't stop me from talking s..t yet again. And yes, my english is bad. I do not care..
I have a question..
Is any american, are they any, that take time to watch and listen to those slimy debates in your "our economy is wrecked, we are into two wars, LOOSING, so let's make this elections mighty important" presidential elections?

It cannot get into my head how come anyone who listened those two guys can even compare them? I mean, do you even listen to Mccain and then count his mentioning of Reagan? How many times he says "I was a soldier in those times"?
Why do you think unconditioned talks with Iran are not possible? What that guy thinks, that americans are some kind of gods or God given country so that ahmadinejad has to obey your laws or else americans will nuke him.
That is why I think Obama is better. He is the only one(not even damn Moore sucker) who mentioned that USA currently holds dictators all over the world by the principle "if he is ours we support him". He tells war against terrorism in Iraq is bollocks. Has any american even listened to the man?
A little detour..
Really funny to me about american elections is to check out how cruel americans can be and to watch their media censorship, :rotfl: AMERICAN freedom of the press.
I mean, talking about the war in Iraq "that failed because it did not stop terrorism, we pay fuel more(!?), over 4000 our brave troopers(those people are payed to die) died there etc." is a great way of talking "if we are loosing that is not good, how can we the great loose a war,let's kill our leader". That's from Moore. On CNN you can watch "war in Afghanistan" broadcast. And there you see a guy talking how american troops help people in Afghanistan and people love them and so on. It is not odd to me. The odd thing is that a guy is standing next to a big cannon contantly fired by american soldier. Very nice help. In other words "let's tear your country down and give you democracy, Madonna and coca cola and then let us rebuild it and take even your soil but sorry we have to take also your gas, oil and whatever money you have". Very nice.
Let's lift censorship and talk about this(I am genuinely interested to hear any american, his opinion on this).. What this? This..
Your brave troopers throw or lay nuclear waste from your nuclear plants on Iraqis and whatever stands in american way, your brave troopers guard opium fields in Afghanistan(it seems to me americans are drug dealing all over the world, your brave troopers guard oil rigs and everything connected to oil, your brave troopers kill people all the time, your brave troopers don't hold more than 1/3 of Afghanistan(I know a guy who was in Afghanistan to add to american s..y cause) ETC. And that is not even mentioning south america or every godamn part of this world where americans are present in any way.
The point is..
American are not God made nation so that they can lay toxic waste on others because you pay 4 dollars for a gallon!?
In other words, Putin maybe is a son of a bitch, but he speaks truth when he talks that americans are hypocrits. How can americans tell russians they cannot invade georgia when they are tearing one half of the world allready.. And they present it "that is the way GOD WANTS"!?!? And after all, when will majority of americans understand that 9/11 was done by american governement?

That is why Obama is great to us nonamericans because he doesn't speak like "I am God because God is an american". He looks like an almost honest guy. He talks way better than that vietnam soldier(OH kgb and mia together to rule the world) who cannot comprehense or rather admitt that americans sent their loved one to a war in Vietnam to kill people for nothing other than to get rich their s..y governement and army a...s although as it looks to me, he represents great number of americans whose only opinion on vietnam war or any american war is "we are not sorry we invaded vietnam, we are sorry we lost, we should have won". Or better a quote from a movie "when you kill them in accident of however, you say.. Sorry"


I don't care if you ban me, cut me or ridicule me.. Whatever pleases you..

I wanted to say these thing to the americans. On a forum of my favorite game. You are not "Gods" and your governement kills people, but not for you although in your name.
Obama could make it "less worse"..

You should think about that.

Cheers!

What you have to understand about American politics is that they are driven by emotion and not logic. The conservatives who support McCain will always vote against their own economic interest. They instead they vote their morals at the balot box, ie "I'm not gay" or "we love Jesus". Of course the last 8 years would tell anyone god isn't a republican.

All kidding aside, our country is run by corporations, not the government. It matters little who wins, nothing will change.

[Morts]

Originally Posted by asanovic7

Putin maybe is a son of a bitch, but he speaks truth when he talks that americans are hypocrits. How can americans tell russians they cannot invade georgia when they are tearing one half of the world allready.. And they present it "that is the way GOD WANTS"!?!? And after all, when will majority of americans understand that 9/11 was done by american governement?

its the American "We can, you can't" mentality

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Let me clear it up for you : nobody denies that free concerts and the like draw in people. What is denied is that seeing thousands of guys at a rally on TV would make much people turn their vote one way or the other.

Maybe so, but why then does the media play off the estimated number of participants in the crowd? Perhaps to spark some interest as to why so many people are listening to the person on the stage? I believe it does spark an interest in why person X has drawn such a crowd. Once the individual investigates they are exposed to what is being said and the possiblity of becoming active is very real. Lemings to the sea effect.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Let me clear it up for you : nobody denies that free concerts and the like draw in people. What is denied is that seeing thousands of guys at a rally on TV would make much people turn their vote one way or the other.

You give the American voter too much credit in the intelligence department

Instead of worrying about who is qualified to do the job and looking into their past actions (i.e. voting records, questionable actions, etc.), the American voter worrites about what is coming out of the politicians mouth (as in what's he gonna do for me). The truth is, what comes out of their mouths is rarely what we get after they're elected.

Stop making excuses right wingers. I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food. You do realize Bush is the most hated president in modern history, if not the most hated president period. The country and the whole world are foaming at the mouth to put the right out of office.

John McLame is the only one dumb enough to stand in front of the crowd as the democrats storm the whitehouse next month.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food.

And how would you go about assuring us of that hypothesis?:hmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

Stop making excuses right wingers. I assure you the Obama crowds are not just there for the free food. You do realize Bush is the most hated president in modern history, if not the most hated president period. The country and the whole world are foaming at the mouth to put the right out of office.

John McLame is the only one dumb enough to stand in front of the crowd as the democrats storm the whitehouse next month.

To be sure, no matter who gets in, we are screwed and the next president is just as screwed cleaning up this mess. Agreed, Bush is not the life of the party. Neither is Pelosi and Barney Frank. Personally, who would want the job anyway? We watched the democrates storm Congress for the past two years. Not much of a winning record going on there either. Everyone on the mall in Washington are to blame for our current ills. If you a pinning it all on Bush, your mistaken at who is to blame. It is not who but what group we as citizens elected to go have fun in Washington. If you think the Democrates will pass a magic wand over this in 28 days and all will be corrected, you are smoking some serious weed. We are looking at years to get this corrected if it is correctable at all. If you think Obama is the win all correct all, you are sorely mistaken. It will be a Joe Biden White House anyway. Obama is wet behind the ears. Come on Flamingboat, what real substance for leading this country has any of the candidate exhibited? Just more speeches from the pulpit for Obama and more mind changing from McCain.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

And how would you go about assuring us of that hypothesis?:hmm:

Depends on what they are serving up.

[Hylander_1314]

Well it doesn't matter who gets elected. You're foolin' yourself if you think either one is going to have a sweeping change in DC. Both of them are not interested in upsetting what got the there; the status quo.

The last decent man in the White House was Woodrow Wilson. At least he had the courage to admit he ruined the nation by signing the Federal Reserve Act into law.

After that, it's been a snowball to "h-e double hockey sticks".

All that's going to happen either way, is our nation that was founded on the principles of personal liberty and property, is going to get nudged even closer to a socialist state.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Depends on what they are serving up.

Most of what I've heard Obama serving up is BS, IMHO:rotfl:But he serves it well.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Most of what I've heard Obama serving up is BS, IMHO:rotfl:But he serves it well.

Yes, BS on a silver plater:rotfl: BTW, DT, I do not accept your opinions as humble. I accept them as intelligently thought out! So, henceforth, I will only accept IMO from you.

[asanovic7]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

All kidding aside, our country is run by corporations, not the government. It matters little who wins, nothing will change.

Finally someone who speaks the right thing..

USA is on the downslide and those american elections are a cover up. A stirring.. But, can anyone say for what? Why is there a global crisis almost every month? Is capitalism finished? What's the price of the oil? Who will rule second powerful country in the world? First? Last? Moon? I ate chicken, do I have flu? If we allow gay marriages, will a giant heaven h-bomb destroy us all? Brittain is freezing? Giant comet will hit us?
Or..
Corporations making easy life for their "exceptional few" on histeria.. Very nice..

About the intelligence of us voters. "What's hess gonna do for you" voting is a voting motto all around the world.. And from seeing youtube movies about "americans on the street/France is actually New Zealand" they cannot be smarter than the rest or different. Hence, God is not american.

But, there is something else that can't be ignored.. How will USA get out of Iraq without being defeated? Who is better for it, Obama or John?
:rotfl:
And ofcourse.. How the hell can you in your country watch a man talking how taxes should be handled, how to help poor americans etc. and then he goes on and on speaking of spending another 600 billion on a useless war? :rotfl:

And if it isn't important who gets elected, why are you voting?

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It will be a Joe Biden White House anyway. Obama is wet behind the ears. Come on Flamingboat, what real substance for leading this country has any of the candidate exhibited? Just more speeches from the pulpit for Obama and more mind changing from McCain.

Much better than the Dick Cheney whitehouse we have now, so much better. Change from McCain? He is the republican. How stupid would Al Gore have looked if he ran around after 8 years of Clinton and said "we need change". His party is the incumbent. If Bush did his job, which he didn't, McCain would not be trying in vain to rebrand the defunct republican party.

I wanted Ron Paul for president. I was trying to deal with McCain. Then he picks Palin. No way man, I'm not losing sleep everytime McCain gets out of breath with the fear of president palin.

Just imagine president Palin "Oh My God GUYS! Look, I'm on TV! Heeeey, HI MOM!, look I'm on TV"

Yeah, Palin sunk his ship.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Flamingboat

Much better than the Dick Cheney whitehouse we have now, so much better. Change from McCain? He is the republican. How stupid would Al Gore have looked if he ran around after 8 years of Clinton and said "we need change". His party is the incumbent. If Bush did his job, which he didn't, McCain would not be trying in vain to rebrand the defunct republican party.

I wanted Ron Paul for president. I was trying to deal with McCain. Then he picks Palin. No way man, I'm not losing sleep everytime McCain gets out of breath with the fear of president palin.

Just imagine president Palin "Oh My God GUYS! Look, I'm on TV! Heeeey, HI MOM!, look I'm on TV"

Yeah, Palin sunk his ship.

I do not think Palin sunk his ship. If anything, she brings more experience then Obama concerning working a budget. At any rate, we are on the path of Socialism and through the roof taxation under Obama. Lest one forget, the first 6 years under Bush the economy was good. We then have a majority of Democrates in the Capitol for the past two years and everything goes in the crapper. Americans have the shortest memory span in the world. Everyone wants to go to war after 9/11 and now that it is costing billions....Bush sucks. Get real and stand up to our failures and misjudgments. No one on Capitol Hill will...ask Barney Frank. And another thing, everyone has McCain in the grave already. Good Lord, my dad is 74 and the last thing on my mind is if he can make it another day. Me at 43 can die of a heart attack this afternoon. Worrying about McCains health is a cop out. Hell, Obama could take a bullet at any moment and I sure do not want Joe Biden running the place. Flamming...come to grips man, they all suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL OF THEM on the mall in Washington. Obama is not going to do one ioda of crap. McCain is not going to one ioda of crap. However, I would much prefer to look at Palin over the next four years and enjoy the Tina Fey spoofs for the next 4 years. As longs we are getting raped by the thugs on Capitol Hill, we should have a laugh or two.

Look through the smoke and mirrors Flamingboat....Washington screwed the tax payers....we had no say at all. Not even a common courtesy of a reach around as we took it in the shorts. And you think Obama is going to swish his magic wand? McCain has no magic wand. We are toast bro and our votes are meaningless. This was demonstrated when a $700 billion dollar legislations was signed. We are nothing but ATM machines for the government who like to go to bed with big business. Our votes count for nothing...ask Hillary.