EU and US colliding head-on at Bali climate conference

August · 12-14-07, 02:02 AM

All I can say is thank God for a President who won't sell our country down the river.

Here's an example of some of the proposals Skybird thinks we're criminals for not accepting.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123846.html

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Without going into the details, the Greenhouse Development Rights Framework (GDR) proposal foresees levying the equivalent of a climate "consumption luxury tax" on every person who earns over a "development threshold" of $9,000 per year. The idea is that rich people got rich in part by dumping carbon dioxide (CO2) from fossil fuels into the atmosphere, leaving less space for poor people to dump their emissions. In one scenario, Americans would pay the equivalent of a $780 per person luxury tax annually, which amounts to sending $212 billion per year in climate reparations to poor countries to aid their development and help them adapt to climate change

NEON DEON · 12-14-07, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by August

All I can say is thank God for a President who won't sell our country down the river.

Here's an example of some of the proposals Skybird thinks we're criminals for not accepting.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123846.html

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Without going into the details, the Greenhouse Development Rights Framework (GDR) proposal foresees levying the equivalent of a climate "consumption luxury tax" on every person who earns over a "development threshold" of $9,000 per year. The idea is that rich people got rich in part by dumping carbon dioxide (CO2) from fossil fuels into the atmosphere, leaving less space for poor people to dump their emissions. In one scenario, Americans would pay the equivalent of a $780 per person luxury tax annually, which amounts to sending $212 billion per year in climate reparations to poor countries to aid their development and help them adapt to climate change

The fox guarding the chicken coop.

Ronald bailey author

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=2

My take on Bailey over the years.

Oh global warning is smoke and mirrors. Oh maybe not. Ok so its a problem but we cant do anything about it in a timely fashion and besides its gonna cost alot of money to do. I didnt know exxon was a funder.

I think Bailey is full of it.

Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

August · 12-14-07, 08:37 AM

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Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

VipertheSniper · 12-14-07, 11:07 AM

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Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

I demand we ban people and human apes then instead of guns...

mrbeast · 12-14-07, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

I demand we ban people and human apes then instead of guns...

Banning people might not be such a bad idea:hmm:

STEED · 12-14-07, 02:42 PM

Saw the news and Europe backs down, well that's a wrap.

The WosMan · 12-14-07, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by August

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Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

Didn't you know that they can jump up off the table and randomly shoot people?

NEON DEON · 12-14-07, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

Didn't you know that they can jump up off the table and randomly shoot people?

Earthqauke :rotfl:

The eight year old gets it shoots himself or his friend stuff like that.

Or, VP Dick Cheney gets one and well you know what happens when Dick gets a hold of one.

Guns are dangerous.

RickC Sniper · 12-14-07, 06:59 PM

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Guns are dangerous.

Actually it is people who are dangerous. A gun is simply a tool.

NEON DEON · 12-14-07, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON

Guns are dangerous.

Actually it is people who are dangerous. A gun is simply a tool.

No its a weapon

A tool is a socket wrench.

Iceman · 12-14-07, 07:34 PM

I did not mean to sound like an A-hole above but was trying to make a point or get a response from someone who may know more about the issue than me.

The point... is where do China and Russia stand on it?

The reason to me or the solution to this and ALL I mean ALL global problems can be solved if these three superpowers could agree and work as a team.Here in lies the problem....the reason why there is a US and a Russia and Germany and a Saudi Arabia etc etc...is people are divided. They always will be. This is simple math here folks. This is also where people mis-understand this pov and think WE or I do not care...this is not so....I do not mean to toot my own horn the simple fact is maybe I am smarter or wiser than you all...you decide....but to bite off or chew on things that are beyond mans means to control is counterproductive and probably enough to drive many to suicide....which is btw a reason I think many youth choose this path....

They wake up and REALIZE....this place is seriously ****ed UP!

and see no hope.

If China and Russia and the US ever saw eye to eye...watch out...things will or would change....but until then you'd be smarter to think of a different plan cause **** will get worse guarenteed.

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Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I did not mean to sound like an A-hole above but was trying to make a point or get a response from someone who may know more about the issue than me. The point... is where do China and Russia stand on it? The reason to me or the solution to this and ALL I mean ALL global problems can be solved if these three superpowers could agree and work as a team.Here in lies the problem....the reason why there is a US and a Russia and Germany and a Saudi Arabia etc etc...is people are divided. They always will be. This is simple math here folks. This is also where people mis-understand this pov and think WE or I do not care...this is not so....I do not mean to toot my own horn the simple fact is maybe I am smarter or wiser than you all...you decide....but to bite off or chew on things that are beyond mans means to control is counterproductive and probably enough to drive many to suicide....which is btw a reason I think many youth choose this path.... They wake up and REALIZE....this place is seriously **ed UP! and see no hope. If China and Russia and the US ever saw eye to eye...watch out...things will or would change....but until then you'd be smarter to think of a different plan cause ** will get worse guarenteed.