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Skybird 12-13-07 05:10 PM

EU and US colliding head-on at Bali climate conference
 
What was to be expected - the US successfully prevents any obligatory climate goals and deals words for more wasting time, not deeds getting done. Stupid, and irresponsible up to criminal dimensions.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...523027,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...523211,00.html

click on the tabs for general overview data:
http://www.spiegel.de/flash/0,5532,16836,00.html

:down:

bookworm_020 12-13-07 05:33 PM

Australia is stuck in the middle of the two, trying to solve the impass, but coping it from both sides!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/environme...135655538.html

Iceman 12-13-07 11:28 PM

China ranks 40 Russia 50 and the US 55....and yet you still spin the wheels groping to figure it out.....your screwed buddy...plan for it.

Blacklight 12-13-07 11:46 PM

All I can say is.. "Thank you Bush Administration".
This current administration isn't interested in anything unless the sale of oil is involved in some way, shape or form, or unless there's some way to make the wealthiest people in the US richer.:nope:

This current administration has no interest in the environment at all. Heck ! One of the first things that George W. did when he got into the White House was to begin procedures to reverse Bill Clinton's order that an area that an oil company wanted to drill in Alaska be considered a nature preserve and non-drillable.

Untill we get an administration change, the US unfortunately is NOT going to be environmentally friendly. Right now, the Oil industries and other big business like it are pretty much running the country.:nope:

Pray that we're able to kick the bums out durring the next elections.:stare:

Ducimus 12-13-07 11:49 PM

- A good portion of Americans, think global warming is a bunch of crap. This is to say that opinion is highly divided on this issue, and has unfortunatly been painted up in this country as a liberal vs conservative issue.

- Just my opininon, but i think we as a people (Americans), are high resistant to change. We typically dont change our ways, and don't bend over, or backwards, or even a little bit to the side, for anybody. From something as trivial as "i always park my car here" on up to larger issues, we're typically pretty stubborn.

- So long as a president is in office that puts corporate and special intrests as first prioirty, don't expect any cooperation rom the Oval office anytime soon.

August 12-14-07 02:02 AM

All I can say is thank God for a President who won't sell our country down the river.

Here's an example of some of the proposals Skybird thinks we're criminals for not accepting.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123846.html

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Without going into the details, the Greenhouse Development Rights Framework (GDR) proposal foresees levying the equivalent of a climate "consumption luxury tax" on every person who earns over a "development threshold" of $9,000 per year. The idea is that rich people got rich in part by dumping carbon dioxide (CO2) from fossil fuels into the atmosphere, leaving less space for poor people to dump their emissions. In one scenario, Americans would pay the equivalent of a $780 per person luxury tax annually, which amounts to sending $212 billion per year in climate reparations to poor countries to aid their development and help them adapt to climate change

NEON DEON 12-14-07 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by August
All I can say is thank God for a President who won't sell our country down the river.

Here's an example of some of the proposals Skybird thinks we're criminals for not accepting.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/123846.html

Quote:

Without going into the details, the Greenhouse Development Rights Framework (GDR) proposal foresees levying the equivalent of a climate "consumption luxury tax" on every person who earns over a "development threshold" of $9,000 per year. The idea is that rich people got rich in part by dumping carbon dioxide (CO2) from fossil fuels into the atmosphere, leaving less space for poor people to dump their emissions. In one scenario, Americans would pay the equivalent of a $780 per person luxury tax annually, which amounts to sending $212 billion per year in climate reparations to poor countries to aid their development and help them adapt to climate change

The fox guarding the chicken coop.

Ronald bailey author

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=2

My take on Bailey over the years.

Oh global warning is smoke and mirrors. Oh maybe not. Ok so its a problem but we cant do anything about it in a timely fashion and besides its gonna cost alot of money to do. I didnt know exxon was a funder.


I think Bailey is full of it.


Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

August 12-14-07 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

VipertheSniper 12-14-07 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

I demand we ban people and human apes then instead of guns... :damn: :damn:

mrbeast 12-14-07 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

I demand we ban people and human apes then instead of guns... :damn: :damn:

Banning people might not be such a bad idea:hmm:

STEED 12-14-07 02:42 PM

Saw the news and Europe backs down, well that's a wrap.

The WosMan 12-14-07 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

Didn't you know that they can jump up off the table and randomly shoot people?

NEON DEON 12-14-07 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The WosMan
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Originally Posted by August
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Next up the NRA does study saying guns are not dangerous. :rotfl: :rotfl:

You can laugh but how does a gun hurt someone without a human to point and operate it?

Didn't you know that they can jump up off the table and randomly shoot people?

Earthqauke :rotfl:

The eight year old gets it shoots himself or his friend stuff like that.

Or, VP Dick Cheney gets one and well you know what happens when Dick gets a hold of one. :lol:

Guns are dangerous.

RickC Sniper 12-14-07 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Guns are dangerous.

Actually it is people who are dangerous. A gun is simply a tool.

NEON DEON 12-14-07 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RickC Sniper
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Originally Posted by NEON DEON
Guns are dangerous.

Actually it is people who are dangerous. A gun is simply a tool.

No its a weapon

A tool is a socket wrench.


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