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The Old Man
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Damn... I do hope they bring that POS mobster to justice. It sure looks like murder to me.
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the only thing I hope for, I dont care if he will be free, or imprisoned...I want to see when he walks out of that door of the court...he get shot in the head by a brave dutchman. as it seems everyone who oposes Holleeder turns out to be a dead man walking... ![]() the world is better of without people like holleeder.....
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Admiral
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R.I.P.
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This is terrible. This guy seemed like such good person. I exchanged a few PM's with him some time ago. Sometimes you can tell the real gems out there by the things they write, even if you've never met them in person. In retrospect, I believe this guy was one of these types of people.
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just checked in after a few days away -- i'm speechless. rip, abraham, i'm sorry i never met you in the flesh.
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I did not know Abraham, but I am deeply saden by this news, that a Subsim member has passed away.
To Neal Stevens and other Subsim members who knew Abraham; I send my deepest condolences. ![]() |
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Can't say I knew him very well, but nevertheless this is very sad and shocking news. Sincere condolences, for what is clearly a very tragic event.
Chock
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R.I.P Abraham.
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@ Neal
Is it too late for an entry about Abraham to go into the 2008 Almanac? It would be a fitting tribute, I think.
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Farewell, Abraham
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Courage should be recognized and being made known to the public, so: tell the story of the events, Neal, and what he decided to do.
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Well if I was a protected witness in such a trial I sure would like to see the authorities organizing my *death*, so that everybody forgets about me soon :hmm: Even if a remote chance, I hope such thing could have happened and Abraham is OK and still with us. If he really isn't any longer, then my prayers are with him and his family. You will be missed as a honest and courageous man!
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Terrible and sad news! Being a witness in that kind of trial is, in my opinion, one of the strongest signs of personal integrity, and today it is rare that people have the courage too acctually follow through your sense of moral duty in practice. Whatever happened to you Abraham, I hope many people will remeber you and be inspired, not discouraged.
we will miss you here R.I.P. Abraham. Porphy
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Sorry to hear this sad sad news.
Abraham will always be on eternal patrol!! ![]()
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Seasoned Skipper
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I just read through this entire thread. WOW! What a shock. My condolences go out to Abe's family. But it also sounds suspicious to me. Is there anything in the stories to suggest a self-induced OD? I, too, find it suspicious that everyone who gets close to this mob boss winds up dead. Are there any reports on his girlfriend's story and what might have happened? I wonder about the scenario being painted of an accidental self-induced overdose or did person or persons unknown "help" him on his way.
I find it significant that everyone who testifies against this mobster guy winds up dead. I suspect foul play. It makes me see the justice of the Huron in wanting this mobster burned alive in our council fires. |
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