Tribute to Abraham: Eternal Patrol - Page 8

hachiman · 10-14-07, 07:02 AM

Sorry to hear this sad sad news.
Abraham will always be on eternal patrol!!

Ishmael · 10-14-07, 01:25 PM

I just read through this entire thread. WOW! What a shock. My condolences go out to Abe's family. But it also sounds suspicious to me. Is there anything in the stories to suggest a self-induced OD? I, too, find it suspicious that everyone who gets close to this mob boss winds up dead. Are there any reports on his girlfriend's story and what might have happened? I wonder about the scenario being painted of an accidental self-induced overdose or did person or persons unknown "help" him on his way.

I find it significant that everyone who testifies against this mobster guy winds up dead. I suspect foul play. It makes me see the justice of the Huron in wanting this mobster burned alive in our council fires.

JSLTIGER · 10-14-07, 02:43 PM

RIP Abraham...

SteminDemon13 · 10-14-07, 08:31 PM

Rest in peace Abraham

U-104 · 10-14-07, 08:42 PM

RIP Abraham

robbierob2005 · 10-15-07, 03:17 AM

There is an article about this in the "Telegraaf".
The Telegraaf is a dutch newspaper so I'm sorry it's in dutch.
The article is about that the members of Subsim miss him very much.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/a...51.ece?cid=rss

http://www.bright.nl/bezoekers-subsi...leeder-getuige

The Avon Lady · 10-15-07, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbierob2005

There is an article about this in the "Telegraaf".
The Telegraaf is a dutch newspaper so I'm sorry it's in dutch.
The article is about that the members of Subsim miss him very much.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/a...51.ece?cid=rss

Now that was unexpected.

Flying Dutchman · 10-15-07, 10:25 AM

Skippers don't die... they just sail away

Morts · 10-15-07, 10:30 AM

R.I.P

LydiaTamarZeegers · 10-15-07, 10:58 AM

Hello,

I am the eighteen year old daughter of Abraham Zeegers..

I've never been on this site before so I don't know how it really works..

But I would like to thank everybody for their kind words..

I am sure that my father would appreciate this..

Lydia-Tamar Zeegers

SantaX · 10-15-07, 11:10 AM

Hi all, I noticed this link on the big Dutch weblog Geenstijl.nl

I am a Dutchie and since you all seem to care so much for this fellow, I just wanted to post here about the facts and suspicions.

Bram was found dead, a woman was with him. This woman is the girlfriend from another Amsterdam based criminal. He is arrested also, but not linked to this case. He was arrested for involvement with drugsdealing. The woman herself still is in custody.
I read on this site that xtc was the killer. In the media here, they say he OD on coke.

Holleeder is being charged with (sorry don't know the English word) pressuring people into giving him money. 4 or 5 of the witnesses in his trial are dead by now.
Even so, Holleeder has gained somewhat of a cult-status. He didn't harm the normal people and other criminals who deal with him have the tendency to die... Most of them not natural.

Bram was a lawyer and it is now being said he had made statements to the police not only about Holleeder, but also other topcriminals. A brave thing to do.

Just wanted to inform you all about what we know so far. As it is given attention by the Dutch media.

Also my condoleances to you all.

Edit:

Lydia-Tamar, heel veel sterkte met dit verlies. Mijn moeder overleed toen ik 21 was, gelukkig zonder de media aandacht die jij moet doorstaan.
Wees trots op je pa, niet veel mensen hebben het lef te getuigen tegen Holleeder. Echt heel veel sterkte.

Iceman · 10-15-07, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LydiaTamarZeegers

Hello,

I am the eighteen year old daughter of Abraham Zeegers..

I've never been on this site before so I don't know how it really works..

But I would like to thank everybody for their kind words..

I am sure that my father would appreciate this..

Lydia-Tamar Zeegers

Please let us know if there is anything we can do for you and your family. We are truly sorry for your loss and your father will be greatly missed here. There are no words to describe the sorrow we feel for this. Again please personal message myself or Neal Stevens the site owner here with any way we may help you and your family.

We are all family here and and Abraham was a big part of it. It would honor us greatly if you would come by here and let us know how you and yours are doing from time to time even if you are not a submarine enthusiast like we all are here, but I now consider you a daughter of mine by way of the brotherhood we all feel here towards one an other.

jumpy · 10-15-07, 12:49 PM

^^
Well said that man.

LydiaTamarZeegers · 10-15-07, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

Quote:

Originally Posted by LydiaTamarZeegers

Hello,

I am the eighteen year old daughter of Abraham Zeegers..

I've never been on this site before so I don't know how it really works..

But I would like to thank everybody for their kind words..

I am sure that my father would appreciate this..

Lydia-Tamar Zeegers

Please let us know if there is anything we can do for you and your family. We are truly sorry for your loss and your father will be greatly missed here. There are no words to describe the sorrow we feel for this. Again please personal message myself or Neal Stevens the site owner here with any way we may help you and your family.

We are all family here and and Abraham was a big part of it. It would honor us greatly if you would come by here and let us know how you and yours are doing from time to time even if you are not a submarine enthusiast like we all are here, but I now consider you a daughter of mine by way of the brotherhood we all feel here towards one an other.

Wauw that is very kind..

LydiaTamarZeegers · 10-15-07, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SantaX

Hi all, I noticed this link on the big Dutch weblog Geenstijl.nl

I am a Dutchie and since you all seem to care so much for this fellow, I just wanted to post here about the facts and suspicions.

Bram was found dead, a woman was with him. This woman is the girlfriend from another Amsterdam based criminal. He is arrested also, but not linked to this case. He was arrested for involvement with drugsdealing. The woman herself still is in custody.
I read on this site that xtc was the killer. In the media here, they say he OD on coke.

Holleeder is being charged with (sorry don't know the English word) pressuring people into giving him money. 4 or 5 of the witnesses in his trial are dead by now.
Even so, Holleeder has gained somewhat of a cult-status. He didn't harm the normal people and other criminals who deal with him have the tendency to die... Most of them not natural.

Bram was a lawyer and it is now being said he had made statements to the police not only about Holleeder, but also other topcriminals. A brave thing to do.

Just wanted to inform you all about what we know so far. As it is given attention by the Dutch media.

Also my condoleances to you all.

Edit:

Lydia-Tamar, heel veel sterkte met dit verlies. Mijn moeder overleed toen ik 21 was, gelukkig zonder de media aandacht die jij moet doorstaan.
Wees trots op je pa, niet veel mensen hebben het lef te getuigen tegen Holleeder. Echt heel veel sterkte.

dankjewel het is ook heel erg vreselijk.. Mijn leven op dit moment is ook niet compleet meer

10-14-07, 07:02 AM	#106
hachiman Planesman Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Edinburgh Jockland Posts: 199 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear this sad sad news. Abraham will always be on eternal patrol!! __________________ Whats not to love about Submarines? Long'Hard and full of Seamen!!

10-14-07, 02:43 PM	#108
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	RIP Abraham... __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

10-14-07, 08:42 PM	#110
U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	RIP Abraham __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"

10-15-07, 03:17 AM	#111
robbierob2005 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Beneath the surface..... Posts: 334 Downloads: 83 Uploads: 0	There is an article about this in the "Telegraaf". The Telegraaf is a dutch newspaper so I'm sorry it's in dutch. The article is about that the members of Subsim miss him very much. http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/a...51.ece?cid=rss http://www.bright.nl/bezoekers-subsi...leeder-getuige Last edited by robbierob2005; 10-15-07 at 04:15 AM.

10-15-07, 10:58 AM	#115
LydiaTamarZeegers Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Im the daughter of Abraham Zeegers Hello, I am the eighteen year old daughter of Abraham Zeegers.. I've never been on this site before so I don't know how it really works.. But I would like to thank everybody for their kind words.. I am sure that my father would appreciate this.. Lydia-Tamar Zeegers

10-14-07, 01:25 PM	#107
Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	I just read through this entire thread. WOW! What a shock. My condolences go out to Abe's family. But it also sounds suspicious to me. Is there anything in the stories to suggest a self-induced OD? I, too, find it suspicious that everyone who gets close to this mob boss winds up dead. Are there any reports on his girlfriend's story and what might have happened? I wonder about the scenario being painted of an accidental self-induced overdose or did person or persons unknown "help" him on his way. I find it significant that everyone who testifies against this mobster guy winds up dead. I suspect foul play. It makes me see the justice of the Huron in wanting this mobster burned alive in our council fires.

10-14-07, 08:31 PM	#109
SteminDemon13 Sparky Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 158 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Rest in peace Abraham

10-15-07, 10:25 AM	#113
Flying Dutchman Watch Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Skippers don't die... they just sail away

10-15-07, 10:30 AM	#114
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	R.I.P

10-15-07, 11:10 AM	#116
SantaX Bilge Rat Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hi all, I noticed this link on the big Dutch weblog Geenstijl.nl I am a Dutchie and since you all seem to care so much for this fellow, I just wanted to post here about the facts and suspicions. Bram was found dead, a woman was with him. This woman is the girlfriend from another Amsterdam based criminal. He is arrested also, but not linked to this case. He was arrested for involvement with drugsdealing. The woman herself still is in custody. I read on this site that xtc was the killer. In the media here, they say he OD on coke. Holleeder is being charged with (sorry don't know the English word) pressuring people into giving him money. 4 or 5 of the witnesses in his trial are dead by now. Even so, Holleeder has gained somewhat of a cult-status. He didn't harm the normal people and other criminals who deal with him have the tendency to die... Most of them not natural. Bram was a lawyer and it is now being said he had made statements to the police not only about Holleeder, but also other topcriminals. A brave thing to do. Just wanted to inform you all about what we know so far. As it is given attention by the Dutch media. Also my condoleances to you all. Edit: Lydia-Tamar, heel veel sterkte met dit verlies. Mijn moeder overleed toen ik 21 was, gelukkig zonder de media aandacht die jij moet doorstaan. Wees trots op je pa, niet veel mensen hebben het lef te getuigen tegen Holleeder. Echt heel veel sterkte.

10-15-07, 12:49 PM	#118
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	^^ Well said that man. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life