Lightning prob in SH4

danlisa · 08-02-07, 04:59 AM

Those 3 files do control the lightning.

I think you need to look elsewhere, maybe the Environment settings. I reckon the improved environmental effects in SH4 are affecting the lightning. What do they look like with all the filters off?

Also, don't forget that the files are DDS and as such, the further away the lightning is rendered the game will use the reduced version (are they dds is SH4?).

CaptainCox · 08-02-07, 05:09 AM

Surprisingly they are TGA's. One of the 1st thing i looked at.
Environment settings might be a lead. Did not yet check that stuff. Will have a look. Thanks!

Dowly · 08-02-07, 07:32 AM

Just a though, check if the alpha channel of the lighting .tga is messed up. If it's solid white or close to solid white, it there's no problem. But if it's very very very transparent white that you can barely see, then that's the problem.

DivingDuck · 08-02-07, 07:45 AM

Moin CC,

have you checked the selfillumination bytes in the tga´s properties section?

Regards,
DD

CaptainCox · 08-02-07, 10:34 AM

Cheers guys, just home here and will start digging

CaptainCox · 08-02-07, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivingDuck

Moin CC,

have you checked the selfillumination bytes in the tga´s properties section?

Regards,
DD

Where would i find that?
In the TGA itself or do you mean in the particles.dat or...

Cheers!

skwasjer · 08-02-07, 01:11 PM

I think DD means some bytes part of the self illumination chunk, or material chunk that references the tga? My tool does not display them atm though...

CaptainCox · 08-02-07, 01:23 PM

Ahhh, cheers. will digg

TheDarkWraith · 08-02-07, 01:49 PM

I took apart the funnel_smoke used in particles.dat and found that it used the material DE6E9B8F8621FB6C for the smoke. I found this in the materials.dat and here's the entry before the tga file that's packed in:

02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 36 00 00 00 DE 6E 9B 8F
86 21 FB 6C 23 FF FF FF 00 E5 E5 E5 00 3F 00 00
1D 85 00 00 2C 00 01 00 E8 91 06 40 00 00 00 00
53 6D 6F 6B 65 5F 76 6F 6C 75 6D 30 32 2E 74 67
61 00

Is the highlighted yellow the self illumination bytes? If so, how do you read this? If it's not, what is this and how do you read it?

EDIT: Stupid me! I knew what the second highlighted text was! I have removed it now. So the question remains what is the above highlighted text?

DD, help! What are these highlighted things? I can't make sense of it.

Not trying to highjack this thread but since self illumination bytes were brought up I thought I'd ask.

If you'd like to see what Visio can do then look here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/46583793...visio.jpg.html

The text is small because the breakdown of funnel_smoke was big! It's just to give you an idea of what you can do with it.

08-02-07, 04:59 AM	#1
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Those 3 files do control the lightning. I think you need to look elsewhere, maybe the Environment settings. I reckon the improved environmental effects in SH4 are affecting the lightning. What do they look like with all the filters off? Also, don't forget that the files are DDS and as such, the further away the lightning is rendered the game will use the reduced version (are they dds is SH4?). __________________

08-02-07, 05:09 AM	#2
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Surprisingly they are TGA's. One of the 1st thing i looked at. Environment settings might be a lead. Did not yet check that stuff. Will have a look. Thanks! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-02-07, 07:45 AM	#4
DivingDuck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 902 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 1	Moin CC, have you checked the selfillumination bytes in the tga´s properties section? Regards, DD __________________ http://www.filefront.com/user/DivingDuck \| OpenHatch_V3_RH (SHIII)

08-02-07, 10:34 AM	#5
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Cheers guys, just home here and will start digging __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-02-07, 01:11 PM	#7
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	I think DD means some bytes part of the self illumination chunk, or material chunk that references the tga? My tool does not display them atm though... __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

08-02-07, 07:32 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Just a though, check if the alpha channel of the lighting .tga is messed up. If it's solid white or close to solid white, it there's no problem. But if it's very very very transparent white that you can barely see, then that's the problem.

08-02-07, 01:23 PM	#8
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ahhh, cheers. will digg __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

08-02-07, 01:49 PM	#9
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I took apart the funnel_smoke used in particles.dat and found that it used the material DE6E9B8F8621FB6C for the smoke. I found this in the materials.dat and here's the entry before the tga file that's packed in: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 36 00 00 00 DE 6E 9B 8F 86 21 FB 6C 23 FF FF FF 00 E5 E5 E5 00 3F 00 00 1D 85 00 00 2C 00 01 00 E8 91 06 40 00 00 00 00 53 6D 6F 6B 65 5F 76 6F 6C 75 6D 30 32 2E 74 67 61 00 Is the highlighted yellow the self illumination bytes? If so, how do you read this? If it's not, what is this and how do you read it? EDIT: Stupid me! I knew what the second highlighted text was! I have removed it now. So the question remains what is the above highlighted text? DD, help! What are these highlighted things? I can't make sense of it. Not trying to highjack this thread but since self illumination bytes were brought up I thought I'd ask. If you'd like to see what Visio can do then look here: http://rapidshare.com/files/46583793...visio.jpg.html The text is small because the breakdown of funnel_smoke was big! It's just to give you an idea of what you can do with it. Last edited by TheDarkWraith; 08-02-07 at 03:09 PM.

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