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Old 01-20-14, 03:02 PM   #31
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So why are the people carrying out the inhumane punishment that you propose then better than the criminal? To lower yourself to their level is plain wrong, sometimes tempting but wrong!
I absolutely agree
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Old 01-20-14, 04:08 PM   #32
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So why are the people carrying out the inhumane punishment that you propose then better than the criminal? To lower yourself to their level is plain wrong, sometimes tempting but wrong!

Because for one thing punishment and crime are two completely different things. The victim of a crime has no choice in the matter. The criminal on the other hand can easily avoid the punishment by simply not committing the crime in the first place.
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Old 01-20-14, 04:33 PM   #33
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How many executions a year in the USA anyway?

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How many inmates were executed last year? In 2012, 43 inmates were executed in the United States, the same as in 2011.


I hear about men waiting on death row for years waiting for the last legal defense to work or for the sentence to be commuted by the governor.

Humans have something inside of them called a spirit and when they die the spirit no longer has a body left to dwell in. This is where the term lost soul comes from.

Bury them alive under water upside down in a sealed coffin, uhmm an old decommissioned submarine would work for the present number of 43 a year, wouldn't it?
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Old 01-20-14, 04:49 PM   #34
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How many executions a year in the USA anyway?
Lets guess.
Was it more than Yemen and Sudan did but less than Iran and Saudi Arabia?
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Old 01-21-14, 07:57 AM   #35
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Because for one thing punishment and crime are two completely different things. The victim of a crime has no choice in the matter. The criminal on the other hand can easily avoid the punishment by simply not committing the crime in the first place.
Agreed. I'm a firm believer in capital punishment when it fits the crime, and the perpetrator is beyond redemption. An easy example that even opponent's of capital punishment might agree with is this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez
(In his case, the justice system was entirely too slow)

Too many people are overly concerned with the rights of the criminal and not the rights of the victims. The Richard Ramirez's of the world are nothing short of oxygen thieves, and the world is a better place without them.
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Old 01-21-14, 08:09 AM   #36
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Old 01-21-14, 08:18 AM   #37
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I'm against capital punishment on the simple grounds that you can't take it back if you get it wrong, and there is ample evidence that innocents have been put on Death Row.

The relative nastiness of certain criminals doesn't really enter into it for me, and it shouldn't be grounds for policy.
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I'm against capital punishment on the simple grounds that you can't take it back if you get it wrong, and there is ample evidence that innocents have been put on Death Row.

The relative nastiness of certain criminals doesn't really enter into it for me, and it shouldn't be grounds for policy.
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You are either against capital punishment for an actual reason or you are not really against capital punishment.
The easiest way to counter that "but what about this really nasty criminal" argument is pull up any of the many cases where that specific argument was used if favour of executing people who were later found to be innocent.
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Old 01-21-14, 10:29 AM   #39
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I was just thinking...

If the politicians want firing squads, by all means give them what they want!

We can do much better with fewer politicians.
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Old 01-21-14, 11:47 AM   #41
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If the politicians want firing squads, by all means give them what they want!

We can do much better with fewer politicians.
The thought had crossed my mind
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Old 01-21-14, 11:51 AM   #42
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The thought had crossed my mind
When thoughts cross my mind, they need to pack a lunch.
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Old 01-21-14, 01:00 PM   #45
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