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TarJak 01-18-14 04:09 PM

Firing squads called for by US politicians
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-1...cution/5206712

Two politicians are calling for the use of firing squads if pharmacutical companies boycot lethal injection drug supply.

Wolferz 01-18-14 04:21 PM

An eye for an eye only makes everyone blind.:dead:

Jimbuna 01-18-14 04:28 PM

Food for thought.

Gargamel 01-18-14 04:29 PM

What I find funny is that the current cocktail for lethal injections has minimal other therapeutic uses, yet there are many other cocktails that are commonly used that, when given in higher doses, would give the affect desired.

For example. Given a high enough does of Versed and Succs, the patient (Victim?) will enter a state were they will be fully paralyzed and in an amnesic state. Then administering a large bolus of Potassium Chloride (KCl) will effectively paralyze the heart and throw it into a lethal arrhythmia. There would be no outward signs of suffering and the patient would not be conscious throughout.

Versed and Succs are used in identical forms for Rapid Sequence Intubation (RSI) and other treatments that consciousness would be detrimental to the patient (Resetting a severely dislocated Joint). KCl is used to suppress heart dysrythmias and hypokalemia, in smaller doses.

I don't see the need for outdated methods when humane and commonly used drugs are easily available.

Oberon 01-18-14 05:09 PM

But how will they be effective with reduced magazines? :nope:

EDIT: Besides, from what I've heard here, the US Police force already is a firing squad :03::haha:

August 01-18-14 05:20 PM

Old fashioned hanging works much better and doesn't violate anti-gunner sensibilities... :yep:

soopaman2 01-18-14 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2165082)
Old fashioned hanging works much better and doesn't violate anti-gunner sensibilities... :yep:

Niether does stoning, besides it might make the muzzies like us more.:yeah:

Catfish 01-18-14 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2165083)
Niether does stoning, besides it might make the muzzies like us more.:yeah:

Lol :)

But then, if your glorious nation would just stop bullying those muslims, they would probably just ignore you :O:

soopaman2 01-18-14 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2165088)
Lol :)

But then, if your glorious nation would just stop bullying those muslims, they would probably just ignore you :O:


Not to derail but as long as Israel exists, and my "glorious nation" supports them (arms them, trains them, gives freebies like no other), they will hate us no matter what.

Lets not delude ourselves.

Oberon 01-18-14 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2165083)
Niether does stoning, besides it might make the muzzies like us more.:yeah:

Colorado and Washington State are way ahead of you. :03:

em2nought 01-18-14 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2165042)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-1...cution/5206712

Two politicians are calling for the use of firing squads if pharmacutical companies boycot lethal injection drug supply.

Just the mere mention of politicians and firing squads in the same sentence makes me giddy! :D

TorpX 01-18-14 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2165082)
Old fashioned hanging works much better and doesn't violate anti-gunner sensibilities... :yep:

+1 :up:

desertstriker 01-19-14 12:29 AM

Atleast bullets have a very high success rate:03:

Cybermat47 01-19-14 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 2165083)
Niether does stoning, besides it might make the muzzies like us more.:yeah:

Oh, you should see what the Muslims here do. After some Muslims took part in protests, other Muslims helped with the reconstruction. Absolutely disgusting :nope:

Skybird 01-19-14 05:33 AM

It's worth to note that the 8th Amendment and several rulings made by the Supreme Court say that no punishment shall be "unusual", "excessive" or explicitly "cruel".

No matter how you stand regarding death "penalty", to execute somebody by implementing a lasting agony, is not only barbaric and unacceptable, but unneeded as well. That rules out methods like the 10 minutes long poisoning of the subject lately, or hanging by pulling the body up with the rope and effectively strangling the subject, instead of having it falling down a pit and braking the neck, or electric chairs which have the subject sometimes surviving for minutes in pain and consciousness. The straightest solution to get rid of somebody (that is what death "penalty" really is about, because it is no penalty - for a penalty the subject must live to endure it) is a shot to the neck. Short and painless, survival rate almost nill. Shots to the head occasionally get survived, though not in a state of consciousness.

I never understood the show and theatre they make of executions. Years of waiting on the death list. Big showroom event. Ritual procedures, magical machineries (injection machines) and all that. Bollocks. If you want to see somebody suffering, rent a splatter video, or whip your poor dog. There is the court verdict, there is an appeal court, the last appeal is rejected - no reason to still wait for years. Execute the subject on the same day the last juristic step was rejected - and I do not mean the governor denying the last minute pardon (which is something that should be abandoned - a governor should not have the right to bypass the law on behalf of a sentenced subject - what the heck does he think he is?).

By my logic, I would shoot the subject when it sleeps unsuspecting. Again: no need to implement unneeded suffering, pain or fear - execution is no penalty in the meaning of "penalty" anyway. It's a disposal.


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