[REL] Repaired Equipment MOD by Xrundel and TheBeast

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

This is what I would call a strict scientific approach

Sometimes I think I have limited fantasy. This could be a reason for my loving mathemaical approaches

Originally Posted by volodya61

Do you want me to test it?

Okay

I will prepare a GHG patch with my new settings in a matter of minutes!

Originally Posted by volodya61

Do you think still not enough changes?

let's think aloud, Volodya

Atm we are just discussing. I am not even sure that my settings are going to work properly.

Once we understand what can be done and what not, we will deal with computer performance issues

Originally Posted by volodya61

Maybe we can to model somehow the hydrophone's work with the running engines..

What do you mean?

Originally Posted by whiskey111

I will test the file today. Is it the final version ? Any bugs I can expect ?

Originally Posted by volodya61

Yes.. it's final version for now.. but if you want you can help us to test the versions with the new changes ..

As far as R.E.M. is concerned, the experimenting phase is concluded. Today I will post a fix which will feature "standard" R.E.M. depths and ranges. This one will be the "final version".

Volodya, can I use your modified Uboat_sensors.sim for the TDW compatible version of the fix, or you had modified any setting not related with hydrophone SensorData controllers?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

I will prepare a GHG patch with my new settings in a matter of minutes!

I can make it by myself

Originally Posted by gap

What do you mean?

I mean, we don't have a setting which would decrease the hydrophone's ability to "hear" with the engine running .. or is there?

Originally Posted by gap

Volodya, can I use your modified Uboat_sensors.sim for the TDW compatible version of the fix, or you had modified any setting not related with hydrophone SensorData controllers?

I don't think so.. I had modified a bit the scope's max heights also and some other settings in the hydrophone's controllers (which I've already turned back)..
EDIT: and anti sensor coatings controllers for compatibility with IRAI..

[gap]

Originally Posted by gap

I will prepare a GHG patch with my new settings in a matter of minutes!

Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?49a968olnd4l594

No red buttons this time

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

I mean, we don't have a setting which would decrease the hydrophone's ability to "hear" with the engine running .. or is there?

This is already modelled in game through the 'Hydrophone speed factor ' or 'Hydrophone noise factor' in Sensors.cfg. Unfortunately they are global parameters: they affect indiscriminately all the hydrophones.
In reality, the KDB was much more affected by engine noises than GHG and Balkon, but afaik there is no way to simulate it in game.

Originally Posted by volodya61

I don't think so.. I had modified a bit the scope's max heights also and some other settings in the hydrophone's controllers (which I've already turned back)..

Okay, I will tweak directly R.E.M. files.
But why have you edited scope max heights? are they wrong in R.E.M?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

In reality, the KDB was much more affected by engine noises than GHG and Balkon, but afaik there is no way to simulate it in game.

it's sadly

Originally Posted by gap

Okay, I will tweak directly R.E.M. files.

Here you can find original file revised by TDW - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=39

Originally Posted by gap

But why have you edited scope max heights? are they wrong in R.E.M?

These are original settings -

1) Height of Observation Periscope set at 3.512m
2) Height of Attack Periscope set at 5.063m

These are mine -
Obs Scope - 3.8m
Attack Scope - 5.2m

I had edited a lot files in my game for compatibility with each other.. uboat.cfg files, uboat.sim files etc..
That's why I had modified scope's max heights also..

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

it's sadly

Do you mean that, in game, KDB is more affected than other hydrophones by engine noise?

Originally Posted by volodya61

Here you can find original file revised by TDW - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=39

Thank you.
I have already started tweaking the non-TDW version of R.E.M. sim file. When finished, it will be easy copying/pasting the righ controllers into the TDW compatibility patch

Originally Posted by volodya61

I had edited a lot files in the my game for compatibility with each other.. uboat.cfg files, uboat.sim files etc..
That's why I had modified scope's max heights also..

I am sure you know what you are doing

Test my GHG settings when you get time for it please, and let me know your opinion. Besided obvious bugs, I am also concerned about computer performance and interested into how realistic/well balanced you think they are. For maximum ranges, I took inspiration from the following quote:

Range: Up to 20 miles (= ca. 37,000 meters) under favorable conditions. G.H.G. is fitted in all U-boats. Bearing accuracy is good. The maximum range at which a destroyer or small merchantman can be heard under good Atlantic condition is said to be 10 miles and convoys may be heard up to 20 miles. Under poor conditions, however, the range drops to half or less of these figures. It is vulnerable to depth-charge attack and many C.O.'s distrust it.

source: http://www.uboatarchive.net/CumulativeEdition.htm

When we finish with the GHG, we will model the other two hydrophones. I have read quite a lot about German sensors, lately

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Do you mean that, in game, KDB is more affected than other hydrophones by engine noise?

I mean, this is sadly that we can't control these factors (Hydrophone speed factor and Hydrophone noise factor) separately for each hydrophone..
Unfortunately I used GHG very little and I can't confidently discuss this..

Originally Posted by gap

I am sure you know what you are doing

Me too

Originally Posted by gap

Test my GHG settings when you get time for it please, and let me know your opinion.

Okay..
But I need a heavy fog for test this:

5th SensorData:
PreciseRange=0
Max Range=4,000
MinSesorHeight=-500
MaxSesorHeight=-2
SweepPeriod=44
ProbInsideArc=0,77

Is the GHG by default in custom missions?

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

I mean, this is sadly that we can't control these factors (Hydrophone speed factor and Hydrophone noise factor) separately for each hydrophone..

Originally Posted by volodya61

Me too

Originally Posted by volodya61

Okay..
But I need a heavy fog for test this:

5th SensorData:
PreciseRange=0
Max Range=4,000
MinSesorHeight=-500
MaxSesorHeight=-2
SweepPeriod=44
ProbInsideArc=0,77

Is the GHG by default in custom missions?

I haven't figured out yet how equipment are assigned in single mission.

Setting a mission to Sept 39, and giving the boat early equipment should be enough in this case. If you want, I can design a set of test missions at different depths and ranges from a single target

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Setting a mission to Sept 39, and giving the boat early equipment should be enough in this case. If you want, I can design a set of test missions at different depths and ranges from a single target

be so kind
because I was tired last time when I searched convoys and single ships for test each hydrophone in the campaign..

PS: I'm not even sure that with my Fog Distances WO not able to see visual contacts

[gap]

This fix should make hydrophone contacts audible for human player at any depth below sensor's minimum depth.

Enable the standard version on top of R.E.M if New UI's/IRAI are not used, otherwise enable the TDW compatible after R.E.M and TDW mods.

NOTE: R.E.M. hydrophone depth ranges/detection distances are not affected by this fix, i.e. Xrundel/TheBeast's settings are unchanged.

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by gap

• MaxRange: see graph:
  

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

be so kind
because I was tired last time when I searched convoys and single ships for test each hydrophone in the campaign..

Here it is:

GHG test missions

Each mission features an hogislander sailing at 10 kn and about to enter the particular hydrophone range at the current U-boat depth. She will keep following her route past you position. More explaination in mission briefing.

Originally Posted by volodya61

PS: I'm not even sure that with my Fog Distances WO not able to see visual contacts

What is the proble with WO spotting the contact?
I have set heavy clouds and fog, no wind, low ship veterancy level. I hope she won't spot you.

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Looking again at that graph made me to spot a mistake: I should have set layers with constant max range spacing among them, and varying depth range intervals

[vlad29]

Thanks for the fix Gap! If You remember, the problem of hydrophone detection was mostly concerning some of the extra (imported) ships. Is this issue still actual or solved already?

P.S. Have a time to have a look at videonews re. meteor fall in Ural (Russia) on 15th Feb. Now I believe armaggedon plausibility is not a fable

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

Here it is:

Why so many missions? one mission would have been enough

Originally Posted by gap

What is the proble with WO spotting the contact?
I have set heavy clouds and fog, no wind, low ship veterancy level. I hope she won't spot you.

I think my English is terrible.. I mean, when/if my watch officer sees contact, then I have no way to test the hydrophone, because I only see the visual contact on the map, not hydrophone..

Originally Posted by vlad29

Thanks for the fix Gap!

Only Gap?

Originally Posted by vlad29

P.S. Have a time to have a look at videonews re. meteor fall in Ural (Russia) on 15th Feb. Now I believe armaggedon plausibility is not a fable

Yep.. it was cool! Armageddon is coming!

[vlad29]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Only Gap?

Not only, for You also big thanks as well Glad You've also solved Your problem with RAM. Two days I had no access to Inet because of my WiFi Router glitch and got crazy of that.