Obama gets more and more dangerous..

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

OH EM GEE!

Did the truth actually silence political talking points for once?

(lol I was away for the weekend)

How condescending. I bet your real proud of yourself when you typed that, do I enrage you that much sir?

Good for them, but it isn't helping anyone out here in the real world. Seems like alot of corporate welfare acts me.

I still want to know where the "jobs' are that they ran on.

I hate both sides ok. (sheesh how many times do I have to say that, and how many more times have I bashed Obama than defended him?)

So whats your view on Mitch McConnel and open obstructionism? That is good?


You took one sentence then nitpicked it, then when I didn't respond you tried to talk down to me..

Right wing/ left wing rigidity is the problem. Not Obama

Look past partisan crap. I can. I am most likely voting republican.

(I apologize if my previous post was rhetorical, it was. I am trying to move beyond that, and be honest with myself and the needs of the country.)

[1480]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

(lol I was away for the weekend)

How condescending. I bet your real proud of yourself when you typed that, do I enrage you that much sir?

Good for them, but it isn't helping anyone out here in the real world. Seems like alot of corporate welfare acts me.

I still want to know where the "jobs' are that they ran on.

I hate both sides ok. (sheesh how many times do I have to say that, and how many more times have I bashed Obama than defended him?)

So whats your view on Mitch McConnel and open obstructionism? That is good?


You took one sentence then nitpicked it, then when I didn't respond you tried to talk down to me..

Right wing/ left wing rigidity is the problem. Not Obama

Look past partisan crap. I can. I am most likely voting republican.

(I apologize if my previous post was rhetorical, it was. I am trying to move beyond that, and be honest with myself and the needs of the country.)

Most conservatives loath McConnel, so yes, I do too. Come up with a better one.

[nikimcbee]

We could have avoided all of this if the press asked the bamster some tough questions in the primaries, he would have been exposed for the marxist noob that he is, and he'd be back in Chicago, organizun' riff-raff. Although, on a side note HRC would have been no different.

I think the problem with the left is that they are crippled by PCness. They make decisions based on feelings/ emotions.

It's more importnant to have a president who is [insert minority here], than actual skills.

Kinda miss Bubba now.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

It's more importnant to have a president who is [insert minority here], than actual skills.

I have a friend "of color" who explained to me that it was good to finally have "Our President", but now that that's out of the way he can't wait to get a good one, no matter what he (or she) looks like.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I have a friend "of color" who explained to me that it was good to finally have "Our President", but now that that's out of the way he can't wait to get a good one, no matter what he (or she) looks like.

You could add a generous portion of white guilt.....though some still hold on to "hope & change."

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

How condescending. I bet your real proud of yourself when you typed that, do I enrage you that much sir?

Not enraged - just informing you. You made a statement that indicated you were either unaware or ignoring the facts. As I said, I think you do better when your knowledgeable.

Good for them, but it isn't helping anyone out here in the real world. Seems like alot of corporate welfare acts me.

It can't help anyone when the Senate won't even consider them. As for corporate welfare acts - who do you think employs people? If you want to bring up taxes on corporations - you do realize that all they do is pass the "tax" cost on to the consumer - you and I - anyway right? So lightening the tax burden lighten's everyones load.

I still want to know where the "jobs' are that they ran on.

People say that Obama hasn't had time to fix things - yet you have some expectation that one half of one third of the government is going to accomplish everything after being in office less than a year. If that is your expectation, you need to make sure you vote for whichever candidate claims to be a fairy with a magic wand - and I am not talking about the Barney Frank kind....

I hate both sides ok. (sheesh how many times do I have to say that, and how many more times have I bashed Obama than defended him?)

There is plenty on both sides to hate - they both are responsible for landing us in this mess. The problem is your hate tends to be selective. Ok, you don't like Obama. Thats one Democrat you don't care for. You don't like "repuglicans" - which is an entire spectrum of people. Seems your hatred is generalized on one hand, and rather selective on the other.

So whats your view on Mitch McConnel and open obstructionism? That is good?

My view on that is that Mitch opened his big mouth before thinking. Had he been smart, he would have said "When it gets to us, we will see what happens". The reality is - Harry Reid can't get the bill passed in the senate anyway - so complaining about Mitch is kind of moot.

Of course - as I pointed out earlier - Harry Reid is being just as obstructionist with the passed House Bills referenced above - but that selective hate of yours (and so many others "self-hating liberals") don't seem to care to discuss that.

The thing to realize here soopa, is that we have been on this stimulus track for a fair while now - and have nothing but more debt to show for it. Make no mistake, the "jobs" bill is not about jobs, its about more stimulus. That has failed. Its time to go a different direction - and the left - from Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and the rest of the "power players' are doing all they can to keep that from happening. Its in THEIR best interest to ignore the proposals of the other side, then claim the other side is "doing nothing".

You took one sentence then nitpicked it, then when I didn't respond you tried to talk down to me..

No, I corrected a couple of mistatements, and advised you to go check your facts before you make claims that you can't back up. That isn't talking down to you. Hate that you feel that way, but knowledge is power, and I'd rather see you informed with truth.

Right wing/ left wing rigidity is the problem. Not Obama

Look past partisan crap. I can. I am most likely voting republican.
(I apologize if my previous post was rhetorical, it was. I am trying to move beyond that, and be honest with myself and the needs of the country.)[/QUOTE]

George Washington advised against the Party system, and he was right. I agree that we need to move beyond it. However, that is a pipe dream unless real ballot access reform happens.

[nikimcbee]

@1480
You're my bamster expert, you both work in Chicago. So it's interesting to hear first hand stuff from your community organizer.

[1480]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

@1480
You're my bamster expert, you both work in Chicago. So it's interesting to hear first hand stuff from your community organizer.

Bee afraid Bee. Bee very afraid.

++++Anneberg challenge+++++ Even when you wiki this, it's still stinks to high heaven.

++++William Ayers++++

++++Tony Rezcko+++++ Been two years now since he was found guilty. Hasn't been sentenced yet

I will get a bit more research done when I can but we can play 1.5 degrees from Obama very shortly and I assure everyone that it will not look copacetic. But hey dare, is dee sheeee cag O whey.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by 1480

Bee afraid Bee. Bee very afraid.

++++Anneberg challenge+++++ Even when you wiki this, it's still stinks to high heaven.

++++William Ayers++++

++++Tony Rezcko+++++ Been two years now since he was found guilty. Hasn't been sentenced yet

I will get a bit more research done when I can but we can play 1.5 degrees from Obama very shortly and I assure everyone that it will not look copacetic. But hey dare, is dee sheeee cag O whey.

It's funny, a while go, they had a show about the history of the Chicago mob. The show was made pre-obama, and sure enough they start talking about Tony Rezko. Now who was Rezko's buddy again? Ditka? No. Bozo the Clown? No Rexgrossman? No. Gosh, it's on the tip of my tongue...

[1480]

As an old timer once told me: kid, follow the money.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Not enraged - just informing you. You made a statement that indicated you were either unaware or ignoring the facts. As I said, I think you do better when your knowledgeable.



It can't help anyone when the Senate won't even consider them. As for corporate welfare acts - who do you think employs people? If you want to bring up taxes on corporations - you do realize that all they do is pass the "tax" cost on to the consumer - you and I - anyway right? So lightening the tax burden lighten's everyones load.



People say that Obama hasn't had time to fix things - yet you have some expectation that one half of one third of the government is going to accomplish everything after being in office less than a year. If that is your expectation, you need to make sure you vote for whichever candidate claims to be a fairy with a magic wand - and I am not talking about the Barney Frank kind....



There is plenty on both sides to hate - they both are responsible for landing us in this mess. The problem is your hate tends to be selective. Ok, you don't like Obama. Thats one Democrat you don't care for. You don't like "repuglicans" - which is an entire spectrum of people. Seems your hatred is generalized on one hand, and rather selective on the other.



My view on that is that Mitch opened his big mouth before thinking. Had he been smart, he would have said "When it gets to us, we will see what happens". The reality is - Harry Reid can't get the bill passed in the senate anyway - so complaining about Mitch is kind of moot.

Of course - as I pointed out earlier - Harry Reid is being just as obstructionist with the passed House Bills referenced above - but that selective hate of yours (and so many others "self-hating liberals") don't seem to care to discuss that.

The thing to realize here soopa, is that we have been on this stimulus track for a fair while now - and have nothing but more debt to show for it. Make no mistake, the "jobs" bill is not about jobs, its about more stimulus. That has failed. Its time to go a different direction - and the left - from Pelosi, Reid, Obama, and the rest of the "power players' are doing all they can to keep that from happening. Its in THEIR best interest to ignore the proposals of the other side, then claim the other side is "doing nothing".



No, I corrected a couple of mistatements, and advised you to go check your facts before you make claims that you can't back up. That isn't talking down to you. Hate that you feel that way, but knowledge is power, and I'd rather see you informed with truth.


Look past partisan crap. I can. I am most likely voting republican.
(I apologize if my previous post was rhetorical, it was. I am trying to move beyond that, and be honest with myself and the needs of the country.)

George Washington advised against the Party system, and he was right. I agree that we need to move beyond it. However, that is a pipe dream unless real ballot access reform happens.[/QUOTE]

I love disagreeing with you CaptainHaplo. I also love agreeing with reason. After all, I am not dense. Well uh, ok maybe I am.

George Washington was the only president who didn't want the job. (someone knew something)

Something is rotten here, it stinks like heck, and we all smell it. It is a moot point to point fingers of blame on who made the foul smell.

I just hope we can get out the bleach and wash this vile rot from our house. I just have zero faith in the current political system.