German police arrest 22 in neo-Nazi internet raid

Originally Posted by Platapus

Perhaps they were defending their country against the conditions of the Treaty of Versailles?

I am not opining on whether one side is "right" or "wrong" at this time.

But I hardly think the German government just decided one day "hey, nutton else on TV, let's invade Europe for the hell of it"

There are always reasons for war. Look at the US, we always fight defensive or retaliatory wars... depending on the word defensive and retaliatory.

No one just "starts" a way without having some reason... even if they have to manufacture it.

By how? Build weapon of mass destruction, and repeat the same thing which cause treaty of Versailles to take place. Maybe it was a excuse after all . War for Nazi Germany was all about land space, so claiming that it was a self defence its quite pathetic. You can check the historycal data regarding the subject and see for your self.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

War for Nazi Germany was all about land space

So that was their policy.

So now you admire yourself? So much for a debate .

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

War for Nazi Germany was all about land space

Glad you say it yourself.
The war had nothing to do with the Jews. Nothing at all. Now we've finally reached this point, can I stop trying to tell you the obvious?

[MH]

Originally Posted by DarkFish

Glad you say it yourself.
The war had nothing to do with the Jews. Nothing at all. Now we've finally reached this point, can I stop trying to tell you the obvious?

No it was about bacon.

Originally Posted by DarkFish

Glad you say it yourself.
The war had nothing to do with the Jews. Nothing at all. Now we've finally reached this point, can I stop trying to tell you the obvious?

And what is your POINT? What are you trying to say by "nothing to do" and "Nothing at all".

Hitler was backed up with mass hysteria love until wehrmacht got its ass kicked on eastern front or until his generals realised that the guy lost grip with reality and pushed too hard.

Is that why he didn't have to ban any political opposition from the outset, set up a police state and put opponents into concentration camps years before the war started then?
I suppose it explains the complete lack of the many planned assasination attempts like those which certainly didn't have members of the german military aiming to kill Hitler in 1938 when Germany was still many years away from getting its butt kicked by the Russians on the Eastern front.

When you done talking to yourself give me a shout . I am going to listen to a song called "Fuhrer face"

I am going to listen to a song called "Fuhrer face"

Is that a popular song with flag waving nationalists?
How is the quest for living space coming along?

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Is that why he didn't have to ban any political opposition from the outset, set up a police state and put opponents into concentration camps years before the war started then?
I suppose it explains the complete lack of the many planned assasination attempts like those which certainly didn't have members of the german military aiming to kill Hitler in 1938 when Germany was still many years away from getting its butt kicked by the Russians on the Eastern front.

So you say that Hitler wasnt surrounded by mass hysteria love from Germans he did not march into Austria as a great leader of German race?

He had opposition but he also had won most of average Germans.to his side which was his first priority before making any moves.
He knew that by tyrany alone he could not realise his plans for europe.
I never said that all Germans where Nazis but trying to paint that generation as a poor bastrds under iron foot is totally wrong.
Maybe a German did not like seeinig a Jew getting kick around but when he got his flat handed over well...why not-hard times and human nature,.Hail Hitler it is.

So you say that Hitler wasnt surrounded by mass hysteria love from Germans he did not march into Austria as a great leader of German race?

Did I?
Oh of course thats what I said as is demonstrated by me not saying it.

He had opposition but he also had won most of average Germans.to his side which was his first priority before making any moves.

If he had most germans before he started making moves then why was he making moves as soon as he got a minority of the vote?

extermination were probably rejected by a majority of Germans. They apparently wanted to restrict Jewish rights substantially, but not to annihilate Jews.

Wrong!! It was accepted by the influence of your nationalistic party. All evidence are there. Including all non Germans in the process. I can give you an example of how Hitler minions treated war prisoners.... injection, gas, experiments... you name it. So you see, facts are facts. Nothing you can do about it .

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Did I?

If he had most germans before he started making moves then why was he making moves as soon as he got a minority of the vote?

Because he had everyone he needed in his pocket.
The ones he did not have joined him later.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

Are you going to answer my question or not?

You're talking to me? I thought your question wasn't too hard to answer yourself:

Originally Posted by Dimitrius07

And what is your POINT? What are you trying to say by "nothing to do" and "Nothing at all".

but if you don't get it, let me help you.
Hitler didn't start a war to exterminate Jews. He could have done that without a war. Hitler started the war for a number of reasons, "Lebensraum" being one of them, Jews being none of them.

Originally Posted by DarkFish

You're talking to me? I thought your question wasn't too hard to answer yourself:
but if you don't get it, let me help you.
Hitler didn't start a war to exterminate Jews. He could have done that without a war. Hitler started the war for a number of reasons, "Lebensraum" being one of them, Jews being none of them.

So you jump from "Nazi Germany is not so bad" to my nationality again. I am not sure you following me, but whatever.
Also how this is posible:

Hitler didn't start a war to exterminate Jews. He could have done that without a war.

I rest my case on this one .