[REL] Voice Recognition for SH5

DarTMauK · 09-16-10, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

Can you play SH5 when OFFline?

If so - how? (don't describe it if it involves illegal aspects - it's not allowed on SubSim).

I COULD play when im offline yh with a fixed image i made(which i dont distribute) but im not using it as i play the game online with friends and its only for safety reason as i had it a couple of times now that the disc just broke from getting it out of its case i think.
Dont know if fixed images belong do illegal aspects, as i dont modified anything on the gamefiles itself

(i edit and delete if its illegal)

So but back to my question i only wanted to know because i ran the speechtest and it didnt work when i was offline, wanted to test sth i modified.
I just dont like tools from others to go online thats why i ask

I think you can understand this

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edt: @RdJ
did you ever try the tool to change your language pack? i just scanned the thread again and saw you cant change you language pack, didnt know if you got it working now or not, so in case you didnt here is the link again which is also in the first post: http://www.chip.de/downloads/Vistalizator_31709612.html
with that you can easily change your language pack, just hit download and 2nd time download

edit2: Yes i know its not in dutch then, i only thought you didnt even manage to get the mod to work

RdJ · 09-16-10, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarTMauK

I COULD play when im offline yh with a fixed image i made(which i dont distribute) but im not using it as i play the game online with friends and its only for safety reason as i had it a couple of times now that the disc just broke from getting it out of its case i think.
Dont know if fixed images belong do illegal aspects, as i dont modified anything on the gamefiles itself

(i edit and delete if its illegal)

so but back to my question i only wanted to know because i ran the speechtest and it didnt work when i was offline, wanted to test sth i modified.
I just dont like tools from others to go online thats why i ask

edt: @RdJ
did you ever try the tool to change your language pack? i just scanned the thread again and saw you cant change you language pack, didnt know if you got it working now or not, so in case you didnt here is the link again which is also in the first post: http://www.chip.de/downloads/Vistalizator_31709612.html
with that you can easily change your language pack, just hit download and 2nd time download

I know I can change language pack, but then speech recognition isn't Dutch...

skwasjer · 09-17-10, 05:18 AM

I can make speech work offline, currently I am referencing the public grammar-DTD's at w3c.org and some schema extensions from microsoft (I believe), so that's why when loading speech it goes online. I can replace the remote schema reference with a local one, only the mod will be a bit bigger as a result... I never considered this to be an issue since it's an ONLINE game, but since some complaints have been filed I will look into this although it's not a priority to me. You can do it yourself too, just edit the grammar/commands files and replace the public schema/DTD references to local ones.

As far as language pack, I am running Win 7 Ultimate, and have english and german language pack installed. In the new mod, you can pick and choose which (by speech mod supported) language you wish to run, and it will let you use it - provided you have the language pack installed - without making it the primary active pack in Windows. So I am still running English Windows, but with German speech enabled.

Abusing a different language pack to use with Dutch will not work. The speech engine uses advanced recognition techniques which are tuned for a specific locale/accent, and as such will not give satisfying results if you use completely different language with it. Unless you find a way to code those rules (basically build a Windows language pack), there's no way to support a language that Microsoft does not provide language packs for. Perhaps in some time more language packs will be provided, I cannot tell.

PS: Karl, this was a crazy week again, so I have not touched the mod since our last talk. I will be online again maybe tonight or tomorrow.

DarTMauK · 09-17-10, 06:13 AM

Ok thank you for your reply

Well its not an big issue that it goes online though. Take your time with everything. Maybe i make it myself as you said or i let it as it is now. I just wondered about it going online.
I could try to make a "language pack", but well im no microsoft coder, results may be really bad, or i dont get any result at all and it may take me months to find out i got nothing to work

So i guess your right it won't work.

Wanted to say again its a great mod, thx

09-17-10, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skwasjer

PS: Karl, this was a crazy week again, so I have not touched the mod since our last talk. I will be online again maybe tonight or tomorrow.

I should be available in Skype almost all the time. Just gimme a call when you feel like it.

skwasjer · 10-31-10, 06:49 PM

It seems w3c has taken the grammar.dtd offline, or private, causing the mod to stop working. To work around this, do the following:

Disable mod with JSGME.
Download this file: http://s3d.skwas.com/redist/speechre...rammar.dtd.rar
Open the package and extract the DTD-file to the following location INSIDE the mod (1.4): Data\Sound\Speech
Open the SHSpeech_Grammar.xml file with Notepad, and change the following line:

<!DOCTYPE grammar PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD GRAMMAR 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/grammar.dtd">

into:

<!DOCTYPE grammar PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD GRAMMAR 1.0//EN" "data/sound/speech/grammar.dtd">
Reactivate the mod. Check the test application to see if voice recognition works again.

Now, the DTD no longer is loaded from w3c.

Enjoy...

Zedi · 11-01-10, 02:53 AM

And I thought that my SH5 is broken, thats why this mod is not working anymore. Thanks for the update!

seiseki · 12-16-10, 07:32 PM

Oh god this is the most awesome thing ever

Just trying it out in the test program, to bad everyones asleep here..
I'm speaking really quietly but it usally picks it up anyways, the easy phrases at least..

Oh man, I'm gonna go wild with this tomorrow!

09-17-10, 05:18 AM	#3
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	I can make speech work offline, currently I am referencing the public grammar-DTD's at w3c.org and some schema extensions from microsoft (I believe), so that's why when loading speech it goes online. I can replace the remote schema reference with a local one, only the mod will be a bit bigger as a result... I never considered this to be an issue since it's an ONLINE game, but since some complaints have been filed I will look into this although it's not a priority to me. You can do it yourself too, just edit the grammar/commands files and replace the public schema/DTD references to local ones. As far as language pack, I am running Win 7 Ultimate, and have english and german language pack installed. In the new mod, you can pick and choose which (by speech mod supported) language you wish to run, and it will let you use it - provided you have the language pack installed - without making it the primary active pack in Windows. So I am still running English Windows, but with German speech enabled. Abusing a different language pack to use with Dutch will not work. The speech engine uses advanced recognition techniques which are tuned for a specific locale/accent, and as such will not give satisfying results if you use completely different language with it. Unless you find a way to code those rules (basically build a Windows language pack), there's no way to support a language that Microsoft does not provide language packs for. Perhaps in some time more language packs will be provided, I cannot tell. PS: Karl, this was a crazy week again, so I have not touched the mod since our last talk. I will be online again maybe tonight or tomorrow. __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO Last edited by skwasjer; 09-17-10 at 05:34 AM.

10-31-10, 06:49 PM	#6
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 3	It seems w3c has taken the grammar.dtd offline, or private, causing the mod to stop working. To work around this, do the following: Disable mod with JSGME. Download this file: http://s3d.skwas.com/redist/speechre...rammar.dtd.rar Open the package and extract the DTD-file to the following location INSIDE the mod (1.4): Data\Sound\Speech Open the SHSpeech_Grammar.xml file with Notepad, and change the following line: <!DOCTYPE grammar PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD GRAMMAR 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/speech-grammar/grammar.dtd"> into: <!DOCTYPE grammar PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD GRAMMAR 1.0//EN" "data/sound/speech/grammar.dtd"> Reactivate the mod. Check the test application to see if voice recognition works again. Now, the DTD no longer is loaded from w3c. Enjoy... __________________ S3D - Silent 3ditor (v0.9.9) - S3D homepage - Open sourced S3D file parser API's - SUBSIM thread SH5 mods: Speech Recognition for SH5 \| Digital UI Clock Tutorials: [TEC] Import/export 3D models to/from game using S3D [TEC] How to work with the model viewer in S3D - VIDEO

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09-17-10, 06:13 AM	#4
DarTMauK Seaman Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bremen, Germany Posts: 35 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Ok thank you for your reply Well its not an big issue that it goes online though. Take your time with everything. Maybe i make it myself as you said or i let it as it is now. I just wondered about it going online. I could try to make a "language pack", but well im no microsoft coder, results may be really bad, or i dont get any result at all and it may take me months to find out i got nothing to work So i guess your right it won't work. Wanted to say again its a great mod, thx

11-01-10, 02:53 AM	#7
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	And I thought that my SH5 is broken, thats why this mod is not working anymore. Thanks for the update!

12-16-10, 07:32 PM	#8
seiseki Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 12 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Oh god this is the most awesome thing ever Just trying it out in the test program, to bad everyones asleep here.. I'm speaking really quietly but it usally picks it up anyways, the easy phrases at least.. Oh man, I'm gonna go wild with this tomorrow!