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Old 05-07-10, 05:01 PM   #1
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All I have to say to this is .... what the hell?

I grow so tired of folks bringing up McVeigh as if somehow its relevant.

Terry Nichols
had the info about everyone who was involved in the bombing but never gave up that info. Soo...why not a little torture to make him squel?

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Old 05-07-10, 05:40 PM   #2
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Terry Nichols
had the info about everyone who was involved in the bombing but never gave up that info. Soo...why not a little torture to make him squel?
We don't torture. I'd argue that waterboarding is—while very close to the edge—within the gray zone of the GC. At the time the GC was signed it required reciprocity, AND virtually every signer at the time beat up suspects routinely (the police). The very first POW captured by the US in ww2 was interrogated with a loaded .45 pointed at his head, and with the naval base still burning, the likelihood of him getting shot was actually pretty good.

WRT McVeigh and Nichols, again, they are/were US CITIZENS. As a result, anything past simple questioning would be illegal. Heck, they were Mirandized.

So again, a US citizen has constitutional rights, regardless of what crap he did. Some Afghani, Egyptian, whatever? No rights past what the GC grants them—and IMHO it should be entirely reciprocal, meaning that if their country did not sign the GC, and they did not observe the GC, they deserve no protection from it at all. The US certainly behaved this way in WW2. The Japs neither signed, nor observed the GC. As a result, we summarily executed them, we gunned them down in life boats, we burned their cities to the ground.
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