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Old 12-23-24, 09:01 AM   #33
Ostfriese
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The question is not for the title, but the qualification (or even the formal justification to call that title).

In Germany, different to psychologists and psychological psychotherapists, psychiatrists are medical doctors with a specialisation in neurology and/or psychoanalysis. Thats why you cannot get a doctor grade (PhD) in psychology over here, only in psychiatry (but then you do not study psychology, but medicine). In the German system, there is neither a "Dr. psych(ology)" nor a "Dr. psych(iatry)", only a "Dr. med". Medical students end their university time with a doctor grade, psychologists with a diploma (at my time) and today with either Master or Bachelor (thanks to the "Bologna" debacle). Today's Master is past time's diploma.
You don't need a title to work in that filed, you need a qualification. Which the perpetrator did have, not only from Saudi Arabia, but also an additional one from Germany. And you certainly don't need to tell me about the German system of academic titles, I've had more than enough of that mularkey in my time (I majored in chemistry but never went beyond the Diplom, so I'm not a Dr. rer. nat - never saw the need for that, and life proved me right).

If you are willing to read a bit more about the perpetrator, something more neutral:

https://steadyhq.com/de/u-m/posts/58...6-98a08e60fc17
(in German, sorry, guys, it's too long to translate everything for you here)

The conclusion of this article sums it up perfectly (translated by myself):
"Right wing populist willl have to acknowledge that the man wasn't just a "Fachkraft" (derogatory for foreign immigrant), but in deed a well educated specialistand fluent in three languages.
Leftist must content tehmselves with the fact that the primary motivation of the perpetrator was not the AfD.
Ex-muslims will have to acknowledge that even one of them can go mad and massively damage their Idea by such a deed.

Politicans, who repeat their call for more security ad infinitum will have drop that simple argument because there simply cannot be a broad protection against something like this.
Antisemitist will have to acknowledge that it's not the Jews who are behind this.
The Germans will have to acknowledge that they have frightingly little knowledge about psychology."
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