Conspiracies, sheeple, the universe and everything

[Mittelwaechter]

Penguin

Sorry if I confused you somehow, but I had a discussion with Dowly and the mocking theme is well solved. I didn't felt mocked by you.

I searched for your comment #777 on page 52 right now, to remember you not to be a qualified partner for discussion, considering your stated flat attitude.

Now you show up with this verbose - but well mannered - comment on... well, sorry but I don't get your point.
I read what all the others of your party have to say about CTs, about their totally critic support for the official declarations and about the 9/11 truthers stupidity.

And I read some common truths, some universal accepted statements on green cars or some buzz words like Ockham's Razor or Dawkins, CCC and Nostradamus.

Dowly started this kind of evidence and 'Al Qaeda literally' discussion. I was on topic - more or less - until he came up with his "mocking" and comparing to 9/11.

I was in Saudi Arabia trying to rent the US army for Petro-Dollars to kick Assad.
A statement - some brain food - not to be proved with some media articles, because there are no such articles. Just another unconsidered view on the situation.


Evidence over the internet?
Even if there is an article, a videoclip or a table - if one refuses to read or watch, to realize the validity of the content, to open his mind - there is no evidence possible over the internet.


To show my respect for your attempt to entertain - let's play the game.

You say a plane hit the Pentagon. Your evidence is the plane parts and all the comments and articles on TV and the web. You have no evidence yourself, as you were not there. So you have to rely on the provided information, as we all.

I doubt the whole story and have to find some possible explanations for the plane parts and the comments and articles.

How could someone get some plane parts into the construction area of the Pentagon, but doesn't fly an airplane into the building?
Maybe he has some (military) superiority to order new air conditioner installations for the wing. They have to be proved by the US Army to not contain any buging devices, they have to be sealed into wooden crates and they have to be delivered to the Pentagon. Only to be opened by authorized personnel. Crates A through P to be stored next to the outer wall for easy access. The other crates inside the building.
This superior may order some old airplane parts from Nevada (or wherever this huge parking area in the dessert is) for a shooting test at an army base in Maryland. Metal parts for checking the performance of the new yellow tracer bullets...

Park the two trucks overnight in Kansas next to each other, change the hauling papers and/or order two new drivers.
Now blow the Pentagon and collect the airplane parts and let the Army shoot the air condition.

You say there are too many people involved. I say who knew what he did?
We can go on and on and on.

Sorry, but I'm not really good with this Pentagon issue, you know. I don't gather all the 9/11 information and web it into CT on a regular basis.


Fact is, the believers trust the government to have evidence 19 muslim amateurs were able to run the complex 9/11 attacks, without any further support from the US.
And fact is, there is too much highly sensitive and secret information - as way too much skill - necessary for these 19 guys to perform the shown act.

More CT?

If you find the right patriotic guys within the US, with power to simply order things to be done, you can order a team of subcontractors to place some sealed containers with extreme sensible, seismic eqipment at every second floor in the WTC buildings in may 2001, just to have some data about the stability in high winds, for a new building insurance. A remote control, some fancy thermite in the containers and thousands of kilometers "WiFi-cable" will do the well timed destructive part.

Four drone pilots in a Nevada simulator follow their virtual flight paths, but two are translated into real flight paths for two real drones - through the twin towers?
Which of all the participants are aware of being part of it? A few 'good' men and some clever planning is all you need. A way more likely scenario than the sold one of Atta and his evil 18.

Evidence?

There is no evidence, but the evidence provided by the scientists who examined the debris and found thermite remains, but are discredited, unpatriotic and troofers.
Pilots who state it is impossible for a flight trainee to handle the air liners this way.
Witnesses in the buildings, hearing explosions and where blown around on the ground floor, directly after the impacts. Video clips of original footage of 9/11, showing a very special air plane hitting the second tower. Destruction experts, telling the collapse of WTC7 was a demolition job. Firefighters realizing rhythmic explosions during the collapse of the towers. Cataclystic clouds crawling through the NY streets. An ex-pilot states, found engine parts in New York identifyed to be used by the military (General Electric), but not by United Airlines (only Pratt&Whitney)...

No evidence you see?

The question is, what do we accept to be evidence, or at least justified reason to doubt?


Hoping I didn't dissapoint your expectations in my answer, Sir.

Or the expectations of the other honest society of extraordinary gentlemen.