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Old 11-04-12, 07:02 PM   #11
Kptlt. Neuerburg
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Really? I don't see too much open carry where I live, even though it's legal, but we have a lot of concealed carry. You say it's probable, yet, to my knowledge, it's never happened. Not once. Can you point to any of that happening? If not, then while it's certainly possible, it's not probable at all.
Well heres three articals from the local news in the state I'm currently living in since we seem to go by where one is living. http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/lo...g-outside-bar/ http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/j.../tbo.ly/Ny6A7i
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...t-bar-shooting

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Have you applied for a license? If not, how do you know what the requirements are? In fact you do have to pass a course given by a certified instructor.
No I havn't applied for a license since Florida is not an open carry state.

Also from NewsOK.com
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Q. How does a person gain a permit to carry a firearm in Oklahoma?
Any established resident who is a U.S. citizen, at least 21 years old and who has completed a firearms safety and training course can apply for a permit through the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.
The bureau will review the application, conduct criminal and mental health background checks, and will approve or deny the permit within 60 days if no prohibitive records are revealed.


Now going off of this and similar articals one can make the assuption that it is basic firearms safety and training.

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Trained by a cop? Do you have any idea how many cops (and ex-military) have no idea what they're doing? I'm not speaking of all of either of those categories, but you would be amazed how many there are. Just because you had some training at one point doesn't mean you are any more quailified than someone who spends the time and money to qualify himself.
Yeah I do realize how many cops and ex-military persons have no idea what they're doing. Examples of that where the shootings in NYC (theres a thead about it here somewhere), the shooting of a disabled man in a wheelchair cause the cops though he had a knife when it was in fact a pen (souce http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/23/us/tex...ing/index.html), and from the state where I used to live, a cop shot a Native American wood carver because he was walking down a Seattle street with a knife that he was using to make a some carving. (source http://www.komonews.com/news/local/112097619.html) Quick Edit:
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LAKEWOOD, Wash. - Four uniformed police officers were shot and killed in a bloody Sunday morning attack at a Lakewood-area coffee shop, and investigators are seeking a person of interest in the killings, officials said.

Pierce County Sheriff's Office spokesman Ed Troyer said the person they are seeking is Maurice Clemmons, who is a fugitive from Arkansas with a lengthy criminal record. Investigators now believe the gunman also may have been shot during the cold-blooded assault, as one of the officers returned fire just before he died of his injuries.
If four armed cops can be killed by one person with a gun whos to say it would of turned out differently if it was four armed civilans? (source: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/78088192.html)
@Platapus
In responce to the first quote of my previous post, thats good. In responce to the second part of my previous post, I would agree that if someone is carrying that it should be zero tolerance for the consuption of alcohol, as for carrying into a restaurant and ordering food I don't have a problem with that.
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