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Old 06-23-12, 06:59 PM   #11
ZeeWolf
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I see you've avoided more and more of my points. Saying you know more about the Bible than someone else is simple diversion of discussion.

You started a thread based on hatred for all homosexuals, and used Sandusky as an example, yet you didn't disuss him at all, just the broad sweeping condemnation. You try to use the Bible to justify this hate, yet pure hate it is. This much is obvious. You try to dismiss anyone who points this out as not knowing as much as you do, yet you don't actually use biblical scripture at all. Anyone can make claims. Yes, the Old Testament condemns it. How do you know for absolute certain that was God's judgement and not some old preacher spouting his own hatred? Answer: You don't. You believe it and that's fine; for all I know you may be right. But you are so full of yourself and your belief you can't concieve of the idea that you may be wrong. This is what led to the slaughter of millions of innocent people by others who felt exactly the way you do. Which of the two has done more to hurt the world?


True, but that does't guarantee the authorship in the first place. You believe it comes from God. Fine. Where is the proof?

Also, the entire thing was written by Jews. So now they're the good guys?


There are no 'originals'. Not one. Every real Bible scholar in the world is agreed on this. The earliest copies of the Gospels date from at least seventy years after the fact. They don't even pretend to be eyewitness accounts; they just tell the stories. This ignores the other Gospels rejected by the early councils. After that, you "huge number" turns out to be less than two hundred fragments.

Paul's letters? More reliable, and it's possible that one or more of them may actually be original, but it's not possible to identify which ones, if any. And then there's the fact that Paul did not consider himself to be writing sacred scripture. He was writing letters of encouragement or admonishment to churches he had founded. There is nothing in them to indicate that it's anything more than his own personal belief.

Your 'scholarship' seems to be little more than faith, and it's preaching like yours that gives Christians a bad name.
Wrong again there Sailor,
I think you would be wise to avoid showing me how much you do not know
about the bible Old or New Testament. You simply do not know the truth about
the manuscript evidence that the bible has behind it. You mention a few
references but there is much more that destroys the assertion that undermines the accuracy of the scriptures.

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