Homosexual found guilty on 45 out of 48 counts!

ZeeWolf · 06-23-12, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I see you've avoided more and more of my points. Saying you know more about the Bible than someone else is simple diversion of discussion.

You started a thread based on hatred for all homosexuals, and used Sandusky as an example, yet you didn't disuss him at all, just the broad sweeping condemnation. You try to use the Bible to justify this hate, yet pure hate it is. This much is obvious. You try to dismiss anyone who points this out as not knowing as much as you do, yet you don't actually use biblical scripture at all. Anyone can make claims. Yes, the Old Testament condemns it. How do you know for absolute certain that was God's judgement and not some old preacher spouting his own hatred? Answer: You don't. You believe it and that's fine; for all I know you may be right. But you are so full of yourself and your belief you can't concieve of the idea that you may be wrong. This is what led to the slaughter of millions of innocent people by others who felt exactly the way you do. Which of the two has done more to hurt the world?

True, but that does't guarantee the authorship in the first place. You believe it comes from God. Fine. Where is the proof?

Also, the entire thing was written by Jews. So now they're the good guys?

There are no 'originals'. Not one. Every real Bible scholar in the world is agreed on this. The earliest copies of the Gospels date from at least seventy years after the fact. They don't even pretend to be eyewitness accounts; they just tell the stories. This ignores the other Gospels rejected by the early councils. After that, you "huge number" turns out to be less than two hundred fragments.

Paul's letters? More reliable, and it's possible that one or more of them may actually be original, but it's not possible to identify which ones, if any. And then there's the fact that Paul did not consider himself to be writing sacred scripture. He was writing letters of encouragement or admonishment to churches he had founded. There is nothing in them to indicate that it's anything more than his own personal belief.

Your 'scholarship' seems to be little more than faith, and it's preaching like yours that gives Christians a bad name.

Wrong again there Sailor,
I think you would be wise to avoid showing me how much you do not know
about the bible Old or New Testament. You simply do not know the truth about
the manuscript evidence that the bible has behind it. You mention a few
references but there is much more that destroys the assertion that undermines the accuracy of the scriptures.

ZeeWolf

06-23-12, 07:04 PM

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I think you would be wise to avoid showing me how much you do not know
about the bible Old or New Testament. You simply do not know the truth about
the manuscript evidence that the bible has behind it. You mention a few
references but there is much more that destroys the assertion that undermines the accuracy of the scriptures

Could anyone top that as an epic failure?
You really should quit while you are lying helpless in the gutter wolfie darling, you are getting more pitiful by the minute.

Skybird · 06-23-12, 07:21 PM

"Accurate scripture."

That joke stands for itself.

ZeeWolf · 06-23-12, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

"Accurate scripture."

That joke stands for itself.

Skybird no matter how much "Go along to Get along" you do, they are still not going to like you!

ZeeWolf

Sailor Steve · 06-23-12, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Wrong again there Sailor,
I think you would be wise to avoid showing me how much you do not know
about the bible Old or New Testament. You simply do not know the truth about
the manuscript evidence that the bible has behind it. You mention a few
references but there is much more that destroys the assertion that undermines the accuracy of the scriptures.

Talk is cheap. You have yet to show that you know anything. How about trying to refute the argument with facts rather than trying to win by dismissal.

"There is much more that destroys the assertion?" Show it then. Let's see what you "know". Show the "truth" about the manuscript evidence. So far all you've done is talk. You also need to show exactly where the Bible tells you to hate the way you do.

ZeeWolf · 06-23-12, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Talk is cheap. You have yet to show that you know anything. How about trying to refute the argument with facts rather than trying to win by dismissal.

"There is much more that destroys the assertion?" Show it then. Let's see what you "know". Show the "truth" about the manuscript evidence. So far all you've done is talk. You also need to show exactly where the Bible tells you to hate the way you do.

Sorry you feel that way SS,
There is only one scripture I can give to you:
Matthew Chapter 6 verse 7

ZeeWolf

Sailor Steve · 06-23-12, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Sorry you feel that way SS,
There is only one scripture I can give to you:
Matthew Chapter 6 verse 7

I would suggest that Matthew 7, verses 3-5 would be more appropriate for you.

Reece · 06-23-12, 09:35 PM

My view is that homosexuality is a sickness, a man does not play with another man's parts, it's just plain sick. However as morals have slipped so far and we know that we live in a sick world, what a man chooses to do with another man consensually is their business as long as they conduct it in private - but when innocent children are victimised, as far as I'm concerned pedophiles should be locked up and the key thrown away. This a Christian view and mine as well.

Some members will agree while others will disagree. The fact is if an atheist has the right to his/her opinion on this forum so does a christian or anyone else for that matter.

mookiemookie · 06-23-12, 10:26 PM

Dragging homosexuality into an argument about pedophilia is completely stupid. That's all the comment this thread deserves.

ZeeWolf · 06-23-12, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Dragging homosexuality into an argument about pedophilia is completely stupid. That's all the comment this thread deserves.

Really, then how do you explain little boys being molested by men? Isn't
that a same sex union too.
The idea that "homosexuals" have any self restraint when it comes to pursuing
their cravings is nonsense and that is what is completely stupid.

In an earlier post the claim was made that a third of children where boys and
two thirds where girls. And therefore that proves the majority of the perps
where heterosexuals. Now why would I pretend the male perpetrators of the
boys be anything but homosexuals?

Let me give you something else to consider. If you take two thirds of the
molested and put it up to the total number of heterosexual males, you will
see a tiny sliver of a percent of the overall heterosexual male population.
But, if you take the one third and put it against the overall homosexual male
population the percent is huge in comparison.

I hope this helps, it certainly explains why some have been so vicious in their attempt to silence this issue - huh?

ZeeWolf

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,801 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	My view is that homosexuality is a sickness, a man does not play with another man's parts, it's just plain sick. However as morals have slipped so far and we know that we live in a sick world, what a man chooses to do with another man consensually is their business as long as they conduct it in private - but when innocent children are victimised, as far as I'm concerned pedophiles should be locked up and the key thrown away. This a Christian view and mine as well. Some members will agree while others will disagree. The fact is if an atheist has the right to his/her opinion on this forum so does a christian or anyone else for that matter. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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