Homosexual found guilty on 45 out of 48 counts!

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well I'm obviously missing something here....he is gay and Jewish, so is there an issue here?

Don't worry Jimbuna it's nothing that should concern you, as one from the UK.
Anything I post is mainly for my concern as a white American. No offense but
I am will to stop at nothing to keep my nation from becoming like yours.

ZeeWolf

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Ok fine. The problem is in the heart of mankind and is a spiritual one. If you
can step back and view the overall history of man. You will see one very
clear and unusual event in time (33 years). Namely the life, death and resurrection of Christ.
Christ Jesus stated a movement that began small and grew steadily through
fierce persecution into a movement that changed
the entire history of the world. Men like you Oberon refuse to imagine how
the world would be if those early believers in Christ were wiped out. The
massive contribution Christianity to all of humanity can and will stand on their own merits forever.
No other religious order can even show it's face in comparison.
I know all to well how some like to find fault in those who profess Christ as if they have a better way
or they claim to know Christ and what he really thinks while rejecting the bible.


There is no peace without Christ Jesus the Lord - He (Christ Jesus) will make certain of that!

ZeeWolf

That's an awfully large assumption to make that I refuse to imagine how the world would be today without Christianity. Where have I put forward evidence to suggest this?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Don't worry Jimbuna it's nothing that should concern you, as one from the UK.
Anything I post is mainly for my concern as a white American. No offense but
I am will to stop at nothing to keep my nation from becoming like yours.

ZeeWolf

Well, with a comment like that I could easily take issue with you but Neal expects better from those he entrusts to moderate this community.

Any further disparaging comments/innuendos toward my country I trust you will transmit via PM.

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Oberon

That's an awfully large assumption to make that I refuse to imagine how the world would be today without Christianity. Where have I put forward evidence to suggest this?

I am sorry Oberson, are you someone who believes the bible is the word of God?

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well, with a comment like that I could easily take issue with you but Neal expects better from those he entrusts to moderate this community.

Any further disparaging comments/innuendos toward my country I trust you will transmit via PM.

jimbuna please quote me the disparaging comments/innuendos you are referring to.

ZeeWolf

my dear holly warrior

That is a prickly subject.

Well I'm obviously missing something here....he is gay and Jewish, so is there an issue here?

It means you have to gas him twice, unless its a special holocaust celebratory offer of gas one gas one free.
Damn I forgot, the holocaust is a hoax

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

I am sorry Oberson, are you someone who believes the bible is the word of God?

I believe that it is mans interpretation of Gods will.

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I believe that it is mans interpretation of Gods will.

But not a translation of God's words?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

But not a translation of God's words?

In a manner of speaking, it is a translation, but as with any translation done, error creeps in. Then when you take that original word and then re-translate it again and again over the space of two thousand years then what you have at the end of it deviates from the original words.
When you look at the original word translated into Hebrew, then the King James version, and all versions since. At each time, slight alterations from man creep in, what one translator meant might not be picked up by another or misinterpreted.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to how these words are interpreted, like any book, everyone takes away something different from it.

[CaptainHaplo]

It seriously saddens me when someone takes the tone of the OP. Especially when the OP can't even be correct in his title.

First of all, Sandusky has by his own actions demonstrated himself to be bisexual, not simply homosexual. He was after all married and the marriage was obviously consumated - as he has natural born children.

What is more important is that he is a pedophile. Regardless of the gender of his victims, he has been held accounable for his abuse of them because there was no consent. Even if his victims would have been "willing" - they were not able to give consent due to their age. Additionally, he purposely utilized his position to victimize them - adding another despicable facet to his actions.

As for all the judgementalism of the OP - do you really think your adding anything to any discussion here. Jerry Sandusky will answer for his crimes - not just here in this life - but in the one that matters. Berating him to generalize about an activity that you abhor is pointless. Yes, the Bible is clear on how we should view homosexuality - but Sandusky's crime would be no less had he molested young girls in the eyes of our society. Perhaps it would be to God, but we don't have the ability or the right to make that call since we don't know the full mind of God. We live in the world of man, and can only hearken to the Law of God as it is given to us. God condemns the rapist to death (see 2 Kings) and it condemns homosexuality with death. Either way - Sandusky will die in prison. So the Justice of the Lord is carried out in this life. As for the eternal - well that's up to God, and not us, so we don't need to worry about it.

So why, OP, are you all in a tizzy? Preaching to convienence does nothing to win a soul.

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Oberon

In a manner of speaking, it is a translation, but as with any translation done, error creeps in. Then when you take that original word and then re-translate it again and again over the space of two thousand years then what you have at the end of it deviates from the original words.
When you look at the original word translated into Hebrew, then the King James version, and all versions since. At each time, slight alterations from man creep in, what one translator meant might not be picked up by another or misinterpreted.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to how these words are interpreted, like any book, everyone takes away something different from it.

That sounds reasonable for someone not versed in bible history concerning
two very important facts.

1.) The history of the ancient Jewish methods in making exact copies of
the Old Testament scriptures.
2.)The huge number of original New Testament scriptures.

These two areas are a fascinating study that can easily dispel any serious
doubts.

ZeeWolf

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

That sounds reasonable for someone not versed in bible history concerning
two very important facts.

1.) The history of the ancient Jewish methods in making exact copies of
the Old Testament scriptures.
2.)The huge number of original New Testament scriptures.

These two areas are a fascinating study that can easily dispel any serious
doubts.

ZeeWolf

This is something I shall have to look into. Thank you.

[Codz]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Don't worry Jimbuna it's nothing that should concern you, as one from the UK.
Anything I post is mainly for my concern as a white American. No offense but
I am will to stop at nothing to keep my nation from becoming like yours.

ZeeWolf

A "white" American? What does an evolutionary trait have to do with anything? Also, "becoming like his"? Do you mean a nice mix of races, cultures, and ideas? I don't see why anyone would oppose that.

This is something I shall have to look into. Thank you.

Look into it then laugh
1. shows he hasn't a clue and doesn't go near your point
2. try and show a single example where that statement is even remotely true.
The nazi "christian" is as clueless on scripture as he is on most things, though he is correct that it is a fascinating area of study, perhaps he should try it sometime

[Skybird]

Kneeling in front of the manual of a Harry Potter game and mumbling "Abrakadabra", doesn't make wizardy any more real, and the manual not any more holy. Even if it is a print from the first edition.