Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Denying someone the same rights as everyone else because of what goes on in their bedroom is disgusting and it's deserving of all the shame, scorn and ridicule that can be heaped upon it.

I have said that many times before and so I cut it short.

Marriage and tax reliefs (that at least are intended for families creating and then raising children), is about the vital and important interest of the whole community: that couples form up that have babies together - which the future tax-payers and supporters of the society when the current generation of active workers and parents has become old. This interest is to be protected, and that even gets explicitly said in the constitution of some countries for example Germany. This intrerst poverrules onconditionally any interest formulated by subordinate groupos or minorities, because it touches upon the survivability of the whole community as a functional social and cultural entity.

As a single man, I accept this "discrimination" of myself, because I a.) see the need, and b.) do not feel discriminated at all.

What makes me feel discrminated are homosexual lobby groups demandign the same priviliges for themselves like for heterosexual couples, which would pout them above me, but without said homosexual couples being of the same benefit and value to society. Society or state must care for heterosexual couples forming up in sufficient numbers and having a sufficient number of babies. Gay or lesbian people in this regard are of zero interest for state or society, they have no social function that must be of concern for the state or society, and they do not fulfill any function for the community by their form of living together: they are as irrelevant as is me being befriended with somebody I know and having a beer with him/her. Single people like me, also must not be of special interest for community or state. Gays are free to live together if they want. Let them, I accept them the same freedom I claim for myself. Singlse like me are also free to stay alone if they want. Families given special priviliged protection do not discriminate myself. But gays demanding more for themselves than what I get, but not serving any further function going beyond that of singles like myself - these are discriminating people like me.

I want families being given special recognition, protection and all that. If non-families now get the same privileges, than these privileges get relativised until they are no privileges anymore.

As a former psychologist beign very critical to psychology and sociology, I am critical of certain trends in attempts of "gender mainstreaming" and rejecion of difference sbertween people in the name of mandatory collective excercises in uniformity and infantility. The claimed total arbitrariness of education models of children, I object to. Models that claim that children are better served by taking them away from intact fam ilies and putting them into Kindergarden already at the age of 1 year (goal in Germany) I call a deliberate crime again st the children and - sorry, Steve - a damn disgrace. I also deny the right for lesbian or gay couples to adopt foreign children, like singles like me also shouild not adopt froeign children. Children need both a father and a mother, because both persons fulfill different social role models and psychological functions. When someone dies, the partner may end up with raising the child al alone. But this is the result from accident - it is not to be declared as desirable, just to open the door for homosexual adoptation. I do not buy these social engineer's "studies" claiming that it does not make a difference wheter kids have two men or two women as parents, or a mixed couple or a single person. It makes differences.

Psychology, my own branch that is, is massively guilty of kneeling to the Zeitgeist and political demands in order to be given further reputation, influence and power py politics and said Zeitgeist. It needs that alliance, because in principle by itself psychology and sociology have much less substantial truth to offer than they claim for themselves in order to shine. I did not quit that field for no reasons, although there were a couple of more. But this was one of the primary reasons.

Intact families and babies are important for us. Gays, Lesbians couples, singles like me are not that important - not regarding the social issues and complex cultural implications touched upon by these things. After all, nature has dresigned human sdpecies to be a species reproducing by mixing up the genepool due to TWO sexes existing. And no matter what you try: homo sapiens primarily is a dual-sex design, and procreates and ensures the specie'S design by sex between a male and a female. That is the norm, that is how it is meant , and that is why we still exist today and did not go amiss several tens of thousands of years ago. And that is what makes a heterosexcual arriage forever more adorable and desirable, than a homosexual marriage. The first is "normal". The latter is an exeption that serves no communal function in securing the communities future and ongoing existence by making babies (that needs to be protected due to their weakness).

Me and cutting it short. Yeah, I know I know...