[REQ]/guestion... G.U.P.P.Y mod??

gimpy117 · 03-16-08, 12:55 AM

I know some people are working on the nuke subs in the cold war mod
but,
are there any modders working on G.U.P.P.Y (I think that's what It's called)

basically, it was a program to upgrade the old Balao,Tench and Gato boats for modern engagements. New towers were fabricated and even snorkels were added.
here's a link to the wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater..._Power_Program

i really think this would rock....

Torps · 03-16-08, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I know some people are working on the nuke subs in the cold war mod
but,
are there any modders working on G.U.P.P.Y (I think that's what It's called)

basically, it was a program to upgrade the old Balao,Tench and Gato boats for modern engagements. New towers were fabricated and even snorkels were added.
here's a link to the wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater..._Power_Program

i really think this would rock....

Dont know if anyone is but it looks it would be fun.

DS · 03-16-08, 01:22 AM

I suggested that as a starting point for the cold war mod.

We already have a functioning snorkel mod for 1.5 . It seems to me all we need is a GUPPY sail modeled, outfit your boat with a load heavy with acoustic torpedoes from 1.5, and we are pretty well there.

I hope someone with some modelling skills (maybe Ducimus who brought us the new Tench model with the FM sonar head?) picks this up...

andycaccia · 03-16-08, 06:46 AM

Quote:

I suggested that as a starting point for the cold war mod.

Making the GUPPY available as an upgrade would be the first step in the cold war direction. The most diffcult part is creating the 3d model, performance can be easily modded using existing balao class as starting point.

fire-fox · 03-16-08, 08:29 AM

you might wont to look at Norman Friedman's "blue book" http://www.amazon.co.uk/U-S-Submarin...674481&sr=8-32

the first thured's about the guppy's

Galanti · 03-16-08, 08:36 AM

To me, this whole approach seems a lot more reasonable than trying to model Novembers and 688, with waterfall and towed arrays.

Plus I love the grotesqueness of some of the GUPPY and radar picket boats!

M. Sarsfield · 03-16-08, 01:18 PM

Yeah, I really wasn't looking to drive a 688i when the idea first came up with a Cold War mod. GUPPY/SSK boats and other 1950-built boats were what I had in mind.

Torplexed · 03-16-08, 01:36 PM

A slow evolution to more modern boats and shapes would certainly make more sense.

CCIP · 03-16-08, 02:14 PM

Yea, that was my hope as well. A later-40s Cold War scenario would be really cool, and unlike modern boats, all the technology neccesary to model boats of that era is already in the game!

castorp345 · 03-16-08, 02:28 PM

i'm comfortable working in 3dsmax and, if it's just a question of making a new sail mesh and using pack3d on the sh4 files (as i'm assuming it would be), would be up to taking a crack at it...
does anyone have any schematics for the various guppy sails?

cheers
hc

edit: of course, the bows were altered on the guppy boats as well, so that's something else to consider (though perhaps after a new sail is implemented... one thing at a time!

)

Nokia · 03-16-08, 03:05 PM

Here is some sites with some "pictures" of different guppy sails

http://www.gatosubs.com/download.htm

http://www.gatosubs.com/mknoasaildraw.htm

gimpy117 · 03-16-08, 10:16 PM

wow I'll try to learn wings 3D but with no other skills at this it might be just you for a long while....

CinC Battleforce · 03-17-08, 09:23 AM

For those interrested here is a website that is a tribute to the GUPPY program

http://guppysubmarinetribute.homestead.com/tribute.html

one of my favorites

CinC

M. Sarsfield · 03-17-08, 01:21 PM

That's a very good website just for keeping track of what fleet boats got what conversions and the corresponding dates. It will be a decent amount of work to make a campaign layer that reflects these progressive changes, as well as multiple boat models.

03-16-08, 12:55 AM	#1
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	[REQ]/guestion... G.U.P.P.Y mod?? I know some people are working on the nuke subs in the cold war mod but, are there any modders working on G.U.P.P.Y (I think that's what It's called) basically, it was a program to upgrade the old Balao,Tench and Gato boats for modern engagements. New towers were fabricated and even snorkels were added. here's a link to the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater..._Power_Program i really think this would rock.... __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-16-08, 01:22 AM	#3
DS Planesman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 185 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I agree I suggested that as a starting point for the cold war mod. We already have a functioning snorkel mod for 1.5 . It seems to me all we need is a GUPPY sail modeled, outfit your boat with a load heavy with acoustic torpedoes from 1.5, and we are pretty well there. I hope someone with some modelling skills (maybe Ducimus who brought us the new Tench model with the FM sonar head?) picks this up... __________________

03-16-08, 08:29 AM	#5
fire-fox Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Peoples Republic of West Yorkshire Posts: 326 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	you might wont to look at Norman Friedman's "blue book" http://www.amazon.co.uk/U-S-Submarin...674481&sr=8-32 the first thured's about the guppy's __________________ Running subs aground since SH1 and Silent Service Running SH5 @ 100% difficulty + TWoS 2.2.19(RealNav + BDU + port smoke + food) + Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack tweaked + The Little Ships of SH5 - Coaster Pack

03-16-08, 01:18 PM	#7
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I really wasn't looking to drive a 688i when the idea first came up with a Cold War mod. GUPPY/SSK boats and other 1950-built boats were what I had in mind. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

03-16-08, 02:14 PM	#9
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yea, that was my hope as well. A later-40s Cold War scenario would be really cool, and unlike modern boats, all the technology neccesary to model boats of that era is already in the game! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-16-08, 08:36 AM	#6
Galanti Captain Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ottawa Posts: 536 Downloads: 106 Uploads: 0	To me, this whole approach seems a lot more reasonable than trying to model Novembers and 688, with waterfall and towed arrays. Plus I love the grotesqueness of some of the GUPPY and radar picket boats!

03-16-08, 01:36 PM	#8
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	A slow evolution to more modern boats and shapes would certainly make more sense.

03-16-08, 02:28 PM	#10
castorp345 Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of Cambridge Posts: 379 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	i'm comfortable working in 3dsmax and, if it's just a question of making a new sail mesh and using pack3d on the sh4 files (as i'm assuming it would be), would be up to taking a crack at it... does anyone have any schematics for the various guppy sails? cheers hc edit: of course, the bows were altered on the guppy boats as well, so that's something else to consider (though perhaps after a new sail is implemented... one thing at a time! ) __________________ my diminutive mod contributions new chronometer thermalizer Japanese wartime radio pack Japanese traditional radio pack new radio new ordnance what color is your torped o aye, sir! sound mod

03-16-08, 03:05 PM	#11
Nokia Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 572 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Here is some sites with some "pictures" of different guppy sails http://www.gatosubs.com/download.htm http://www.gatosubs.com/mknoasaildraw.htm __________________

03-16-08, 10:16 PM	#12
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	wow I'll try to learn wings 3D but with no other skills at this it might be just you for a long while.... __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-17-08, 09:23 AM	#13
CinC Battleforce A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 78 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	For those interrested here is a website that is a tribute to the GUPPY program http://guppysubmarinetribute.homestead.com/tribute.html one of my favorites CinC

03-17-08, 01:21 PM	#14
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's a very good website just for keeping track of what fleet boats got what conversions and the corresponding dates. It will be a decent amount of work to make a campaign layer that reflects these progressive changes, as well as multiple boat models. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM