SUBSIM SH4 Patch 1.1 Bug Thread

[Gizzmoe]

NOTE TO ALL: Since the patch 1.2 has been announced I decided to stop maintaining this list and start a new bug thread after that patch has been released Drebbel

Download and install the SH4 v1.1 Patch before posting in this thread !
Dowload here": http://www.ubi.com/US/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2172

Please post and discuss all bugs or errors of the 1.1 version here.

Once a bug has been confirmed by at least two more members we´ll add it to the Confirmed list.


A: Reported Bugs

A1) Crewmen appear flat, 2D; chanting numbers endlessly; you are using a No CD crack or illegal version of the game. Do not post. I strongly recommend you read the following thread.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108470

A2) Repetative/looping speech and sound effects. Like "rudder rudder" when setting rudder amidships and torpedo explosions.

A3) Time/clock problems. Clocks contradicting each other and not matching the time of day, but maybe this is not local time at all. Also see #C51
Also see post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=401

A4) Crash to when using the "A key".
Work around: Click on the depth guage to set to current depth.

A5) Crash when using stadimeter. In case certain graphics options (stabilized view?)are enabled.

A6) Freezing/slow downs after hitting "M" when a lot of messages are present.

A7) In certain occasions the crew keeps complaining of lack of oxygen as soon one surfaces

A8) Mysteriously looking rectangle polygon sticking out of water.
More info in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108938

A9) On the map sometimes naval contacts are positioned on land

A10) After equipment damage the crew manning it sometimes seems to die for no reason.
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109077

A11) There is an issue with Resolutions and Anti Aliasing.
More info in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=106588

A12) Sometimes Radar stuck in ON position (possibly related to #C6):
More info in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108986

A13) In certain areas torpedos not visible on the attack map.
More info in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109143

A14) TDC and position keeper port side bug, other details, here

A15) Estimating speed suing the stopwatch seems impossible

A16) Stadimeter seems to give bad readings to many people
More info in posting: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=592

A17) Various save game issues have been reported
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109293

A18) Contact/magnetic setting seems backwards
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109968

A19) Batteries can be recharged when out of fuel
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109993

A20) Sometimes upgrading the deck gun results in the disappearing of that station in the crew management screen
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108614

A21) When being rammed on the surface the sub survives and the escort sinks
More info in thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/6421019045

A22) All radar ceasing to function in career mode after primary objective is achieved
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=37

A23) Some times convoy ships cluster and stop.
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110668

NOTE TO ALL: Since the patch 1.2 has been announced I decided to stop maintaining this list and start a new bug thread after that patch has been released Drebbel



B: Bug or Feature, who knows ?

B1) The "empty box" in the ship's ID book is always checked.

B2) Sonar only works below periscope depth.

B3) Air search radar detect ships

B4) Can only sent contact report on some targets

B5) Radio transmissions are recieved underwater.
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=33

B6) Radar dead zones
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110483

B7) Many skippers are forced to retire before the war is over
General feeling is that players do not want this kind of realism

B8) Crew has USMC belt buckles
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109676

B9) Many people have reported their sub sinking like a rock without having/knowing about any damage

NOTE TO ALL: Since the patch 1.2 has been announced I decided to stop maintaining this list and start a new bug thread after that patch has been released Drebbel



C: Reported Glitches, Buglets and Imperfections

C1) Periscope up/down sound not present in the control room.

C2) Crew member hands, eyes look a little bit strange.

C3) Lack of audio voice overs/comfirmations from the crew.

C4) Clouds change too fast

C5) Medals do not have historical correct names. But the dev-team has a good reason for that: Read the reason here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html
Read the dev-team comment here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111201

C6) TDC, Decoys, Bathythermograph, Radar, etc available too soon. Also, units visible on boat when boat does not have them
More info in this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=369

C7) When home base is over run player is not informed where he should end his patrol

C8) No proper description (game or manual) of the Subs and Torpedos

C9) Rudders sometimes positioned few yards away from a vessel
More info, and screenie, on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=23

C10) Crewmen in various stages of transparency.

C11) Units in Deck Gun are metric when imperial system is selected in the game.

C12) Torpedoes RESET automatically from 'contact' to 'contact influence' after a
certain time.

C13) No way to turn that radar off, since that icon is grayed out.

C14) Chronometer doesn't auto-calculate enemy ship speed.

C15) 2/3 speed on telegraph is verbally called "Ahead Slow"

C16) "Out of Oxygen" message when surfacing.

C17) Asked the sonar man to Follow the Nearest Contact (a Merchant) - he did....Surfaced, and he was still following the contact and calling out the bearings.

C18) Torpedo Tube status panel in conning tower blinks like a Christmas Tree

C19) Recognition manual too bright when rigged for red, blinding.

C20) Rafts/life boats bumping sub sounds like a car crash!
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110032

C21) Aircraft seem a bit too smart. They find you early war at night without a problem

C 22) Jap fleet sails to midway in january and not june.

C23) Volumetic Fog will make men on watch transparent

C24) PPI and SDA scope buttons are flipped/switched
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=32
Answer at: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=33

C25) Various "U-boat" terminology used in the in-game documentation

C26) Reported Depth Under Keel is too deep, especially noticible in shallow waters

C27) Not a completer "green board" when submerged

C28) Sub keeps colliding with sea floor
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=13

C29) Sometimes AA view obstructed
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=14

C30) Plotting tool does not switch between yards and nautical miles like the map does
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=14

C31) Various issues in units used (yard/feet/meters) for radar/sonar/watch officer/deck gun

C32) There seems to be no renown bonus for completing sub school
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=14

C33) Seems battery life does not match historical data

C34) Can use the deck/AA gun without being 'manned' by AI crew. Including situations where the AI crew is barred from use by weather.
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=15

C35) Sound head moves while running on the surface

C36) Radar in Non radar equiped subs and crew giving radar bearing calls when its not present.

C37) Impossible to switch in-game music off and have radio on

C38) when running at TC>1 centering the rudder always leaves it at 1-2 instead of 0

C39) Depth under keel, voice file missing... Ping and text message only at the moment.

C40) Some gauges are backwards
More info in post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=327

C41) TDC always seems to aim for center, even when aimed at bow

C42) Ships loosing their propellors does not influence their speed.

C43) Convoy traffic control seems iffy

C44) Some people report the rank structure does not resamble the WWII rank structure

C45) Torpedos keep randomly reseting to from contact to contact influence while using TDC.

C46) Very distant torpedo end run detonations sound like they are next to boat (realtime sound travel enabled).

C47) Radar contacts from radar operator are super accurate for range and target heading

C48) Diveplanes seem to stop working for no reason

C49) Can use slots of Damage Control Team to increase crew on board
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=29

C50) No indication of local time. Hard to know when there will ne sunris/sunset

C51) When using binoculars on the bridge there is too much stuff blocking the view
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110146

C52) It seems historically incorrect that one can not open multiple torpedo doors
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109407

C53) When replenished one only gets torpedoes and diesel, but gun ammo is forgotten
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109028

C54) Death cam sometimes does not show the sub

C55) Unknown how to remove dead crew from the ship

C56) Odd number used for reporting depths
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=30

C57) Weird text on various labels
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110174

C58) Damage control is a mystery to many skippers, some explanations in the patch 1.2 readme or in a seperate pdf would be appreciate by lots of people.
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109076

C59) There are several glitches in the museum
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110253

C60) Reversed texture bug in the S-42's control room.
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=37

C61) Screws of the sub seem to rotate the wrong way

C68) Some units perform suicidal evasive action
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110687

C69) It seems some what odd that the W.O. can not give bearing to nearest target
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110740

C70) In the campaign people seem to get the same mission objectives again and again

C71) a map-note option is mentioned in the manual but is not in the game
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109794

C72) Thresher spelled as Tresher

C73) S-boats not historically correct
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110881

C74) Midget subs have no icon on the map during max zoom. You get file tga not found.
More info on page: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107766&page=39

C75) Report messages by crew for pilots and planes not always correct
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111096

C76) Judging from the many Q asked in this forum the player really needs more info on how to end his patrol so the mission is accomplished.
An example of the many Q asked is here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111045

C77) Crew sleep cycle seem to have some issues
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111133 Drebbel

C78) Game is lacking the historical US aircraft for this theatre
More info in thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111241


NOTE TO ALL: Since the patch 1.2 has been announced I decided to stop maintaining this list and start a new bug thread after that patch has been released Drebbel

[Onkel Neal]

Good move, Gizz.

All, please take a second and read the Subsim memo here. We want to take all that energy most forums expend in whining and convert it into productive and focused criticism.

Also, if we could use this thread for real bugs, not things we wish the game had but doesn't, that would be great.

[jeff lackey]

For the devs: I've noticed that the sound settings and video resolution settings always reset themselves - i.e., every time I start back up I have to go in and turn off the music and set the video back up to the higher resolution I prefer.

[Torpex69]

Salvo's like SH3 are gone it seems.
You just fire 1 torp after another.
And you can't seem to open multiple tubes.
So you try and do a quick salvo by firing individual tubes.
Open Tube fire.Open Tube Fire'Open Tub.......etc
Unless i'm doing something wrong??

I could'nt get the sonar to work.
I can't listen to or control the hydrophones.
Every button apart from the active ping does nothing.
The manual is poor on the sonar.
Maybe 50 words .
Also i'll be in a friendly harbour in the tutorials and dive to periscope death and ask my sonarman to report contacts and he can't hear anything though outside i see lots of traffic.
In fact he can't hear anything period?
Unless i'm doing something wrong.

I can't get the radar to even turn on apart fron the anti aircraft and deck gun tutorials.
Again the manual is poor on this.

I can't get the periscopes to stop going up or down using the command bar at the bottom of the screen. It has to go all the way up or down with no brakes which means when it;s going up it can be sticking several feet out of the water and you don't want that.

Using the page up/down keys is no problem though.

If i'm doing anything wrong apologies.

[Yak]

- Pretty nasty clipping code issues - You can sail through many objects of a decidedly terrestrial nature. Not sure if it classes as a bug but the sea bed rocks (and the sea bed itself) don't cause you to run aground)

- Crewmen often become translucent

- Seriously bodgy damage model, I put two torps direct hits into the bow of a fubuki (explosions and all) and then he turns and gets the third in the rear in between the shafts, got to be one of the best kills i've ever made, but it didn't do a thing to him. Next salvo, two fish from my rear tubes hit amidships in the anti-torp bulges, kill and sink a full size carrier. Go figure...

- Self damage model, I had a string of DC's go off literally next to me, about three feet from both sides of the sub and no damage.

- While I seemed to have a more functional sonar/radar suite than most, getting it to work was spotty at best.

- The graphics don't seem anything like whats in the screenshots, and thats on ubi's top of the line alienware test rig, and there weren't the options one would expect for them.

- Just a minor one, but a lot of the text will refer to ''You're U-Boat''

- Another minor one, not really a bug, but some of the ship and aircraft lists are... odd, lancasters for the USN/AAF and RAAF (none served in the PTO), and some weird ship lists, ie tribals for the RN (again, none in the PTO) but none for the RAN (did serve in the PTO

That said, some goodies are in there and its on the whole as good as SH1 was.

- Again not sure if its a bug, but there was a strong lack of audio voice overs, only the dive and submerge and contact spotted commands seemed to be verbal, everything was simply written on screen. I assume people can put their own audio files to the text tags however.

In a similar vein, the radio/grammophone only played the SH4 theme music with a scratchy sound to it like on an old player, I assume they expect us to provide the music (note I didn't play a final build)

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by gnirtS

(ii) Repeatedly every time i use the stadimeter to estimate range after positioning waterline of ship level with top of mast and left click the game crashes out. Reboots, various options but this feature is 100% unworkable for me.

this one happens to me too in the submarine school mission, but the stadiemeter has worked fine for me in career mode (s-class)...
perhaps this is a sub-specific bug?

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by gnirtS

(iii) I cant get the speed estimate to work via TDC/Attack screen. According to the manual first left click should bring up a clock (it does) but second left click should enter the speed - it doesn't. Unless im confusing something the manual is saying i cant get speed estimate to work.

agreed. this doesn't seem to be working as it's supposed to according to the manual...

[gnirtS]

Originally Posted by castorp345

this one happens to me too in the submarine school mission, but the stadiemeter has worked fine for me in career mode (s-class)...
perhaps this is a sub-specific bug?

Thats possible - i got it 100% of the time in torpedo attack school mission.

I tried a quick mission (same sub type) and it happened.

I'll play with a different sub or career to see if its still apparent.

Edit:- Just tried "S" type and quick mission, still does it. The dial spins altering range as the image is moved but the second left click crashes the game out entirely.

Edit 2:- Does it to me as porpoise class in career too. Looks like i have the bug everywhere.

That bug combined with the speed estimate not working im finding very irritating at the moment.

[tw33ty]

I don't know if this is a bug, but where is that hull integrity indicator?? I had 3 big holes in the sub (viewed from the external view) but at the damage control it showed everything ok...

[MVolante]

I have had a funny problem. I upgraded my deck gun on my gar class submarine on my second mission, and now it seems that there are is no station there. My men can not man it, so whenever I want to use it I must use it myself, so it works fine, but the crew just ignores it, theres no open slots. Pretty weird.

[digitizedsoul]

Wow this one is REALLY annoying

You CANNOT set the "realism" settings for a campaign to "custom"

You can only use the preset "easy, medium, hard & realistic".

These preset options suck and turn things on / off in a manor that few users on this forum would find appropriate for their playing.
For instance you can't have external cam but auto targetting.

VERY bad hiccup there....

[Spaxspore]

Originally Posted by digitizedsoul

Wow this one is REALLY annoying

You CANNOT set the "realism" settings for a campaign to "custom"

You can only use the preset "easy, medium, hard & realistic".

These preset options suck and turn things on / off in a manor that few users on this forum would find appropriate for their playing.
For instance you can't have external cam but auto targetting.

VERY bad hiccup there....

No, thats what i thought at first when i saw that. However i think that applies to AI difficulty and such. I cause if u start a partol and go to options there is your realisim settings.

[nb4est]

Not exactly bugs, yet annoying
1. Not enough fuel to complete even first task of 1st patrol, infiltrate agent to Honshu. Departure from PH, refit at MI, still consumed more then half of gas at Jap coast. Any boat. No way to go to Manila after, coz it got captured.
2. Aircrafts dont have MGs/cannons
3. No in-game technical data on anything, even on US subs to choose. No test depth, max range surfaced/submerged, etc. Nothing, even the numbers of tubes, just models in museum.

[digitizedsoul]

Good call.... can't verify if I overlooked that or not.

I just know that when starting a campaign you have to choose that difficulty level, and it is tied to your realism settings elsewhere.

I went back to do a single mission and beacuse I chose "realistic" when I did my campaign, it was no longer set to "custom" for single mission.

Either way it is kinda annoying

[Tonnage_Ace]

Originally Posted by Dowly

If you have disabled your music, you wont hear the narration on the campaign intro.

I was going to try that , but I have to go to work in a bit so just enough time to check the forums.

Can anyone tell me how you check the distance you can travel at your set speed??? That was my only way in SHIII of making sure my boat didn't come to a dead stop on the way back to port I hate the fact they disabled all of your officers and now it seems more like an arcade game with those dumb tabs. No interaction with they crew which I personally think is a big step back from SHIII.