Firing squads called for by US politicians

[Wolferz]

Considering the inhumane acts these animals have committed, do they really deserve a humane end to their miserable lives?
Firing squad would be too easy an out imho.

[Ducimus]

A properly done drop hanging is probably one of the more humane and inexpensive methods of executions.

Besides, ammo's getting expensive.

[u crank]

I would be in favor of one option in regards to capital punishment. A revolver and one bullet. One chance only to do it yourself. Take it or leave it.

[kranz]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Considering the inhumane acts these animals have committed, do they really deserve a humane end to their miserable lives?
Firing squad would be too easy an out imho.

I agree.
There should also be 10 rattan cane strokes for writing such BS.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Considering the inhumane acts these animals have committed, do they really deserve a humane end to their miserable lives?
Firing squad would be too easy an out imho.

So why are the people carrying out the inhumane punishment that you propose then better than the criminal? To lower yourself to their level is plain wrong, sometimes tempting but wrong!

[MH]

execution is no penalty in the meaning of "penalty" anyway. It's a disposal

In some cases it is disposal indeed but for most part when it comes to criminal law it is about the show , prevention and PR.

Not mutch diffrent from witch burning.
Yet when it comes to some types of peaple i dont care.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

So why are the people carrying out the inhumane punishment that you propose then better than the criminal? To lower yourself to their level is plain wrong, sometimes tempting but wrong!

No matter how it's viewed, it's still murder when a death sentence is levied. The states that practice the punishment are no better than those being punished. Putting them down like a rabid dog should be sufficient and cause no shortage in the supplies of killing cocktails. Plenty made for the vets to snuff our aged pets. Use the same thing on the condemned as well.
If money is the object, a rope is cheap, reusable and oh so effective.

[NeonSamurai]

Except hanging wasn't all that effective as a humane method. Hangings were botched a great deal, in fact I believe there were more botched ones then proper ones. There are so many different variables to consider: weight and build of the person, characteristics of the rope (humidity, tensile strength, etc), precise positioning of the knot, the rope properly fashioned into a noose, the length of the drop, etc. If you screwed up it could result in the rope failing, the person slowly choking to death, their head getting ripped off, etc... Yes often the person died, but it didn't go to plan very often.

Lethal injection is somewhat simpler, yet for a humane and painless method, why do they feel the need to inject a substance that paralyzes the vocal cords first? There is some scant research that suggests this is one of the worst forms.

Beheading might be better, though it is messy (but so is a firing squad and you have to deal with the human element), and there is some debate if the person looses consciousness immediately or not.

Maybe we should blow people up instead. That would be quick, give them a plastic explosive helmet. But still the problem of the mess.


Anyhow the bigger concern in my opinion is the current prison population, and how this has become an industry in the United States. For the land of the free, why are more people per capita prisoners, than any single other nation in the world. It is a real paradox...

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Considering the inhumane acts these animals have committed, do they really deserve a humane end to their miserable lives?
Firing squad would be too easy an out imho.

Perhaps it's to show that we're better than them?

[soopaman2]

How about we use bolt guns like we do when we slaughter cattle?

A needle into the base of the brain, fast, ends all physical processes instantly.

There are some people who do not deserve life, even in prison.

Only because these people disrespected life in the first place.

I do see it as a disposal method, a disposal of useless crap to our society, as so deemed by our laws.

Only for the most vile of offenders of course, it should never be given out arbitrarily or out of anger, or public pressure.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Considering the inhumane acts these animals have committed, do they really deserve a humane end to their miserable lives?
Firing squad would be too easy an out imho.

So both the constitution's/8th amendment's and the Supreme Court's rulings should be ignored? Just so that you get your private rocky horror torture show? It sounds suspiciously like lynching and revenge-before-law to me.

A penalty is a measurement by which you want to alter and/or sanction the behavior of a person. For that, the subject has to live on, both to show (or show not) a consequence in its behavior, and to endure the penalty. Killing somebody negates both.

Compensation is an additional task that is added to the penalty - where compensation/reparation is possible at least.

On a sidenote, a good principle imo is that the penalty given shall not be more serious than the crime. When somebody steals 100 dollar, the victim can demand at court to be given back those 100 dollars (compensation), and the perpetrator be given an additional penalty from 0 to 100 dollar maximum, again to be given to the victim, since the state has not been victim of the crime, but the person who got robbed. Costs for proceedings also have to be payed by the perpetrator, of course. the victim also has the right to pledge for a lower or no penalty, if it wants that.

Execution imo is an option in case of prevention against very serious, major extraordinary sorts of crime and terrorism. The drug baron in prison who rules his empire even from behiodn bars. The radical ideological terrorist who becomes the excuse for his followers to commit bombing stirkes to blackmail the state for his release. The weapon trader or slave trader who after release can be expected to just carry on where they were interrupted. Such crimes cannot be compensated, and the perspective of prevention and disposal win in dominance. The normal scale of crimes you see people in prison for most of the time are not covered by this. I do not wish executions to become standard procedures in the law's ordinary arsenal of legal responses to crime in society.

Long term prisoners who have life sentences shall be allowed to end their lives voluntarily, if they desire that. However, there should be high penalties for staff trying to make normal prison life so miserable for them so that they see no other way than suicide, however. Voluntarily: okay, I am for principle reasons for everybody's guaranteed freedom to end his life according to his choosing. It's a basic human right, and no society has the right to demand and to force somebody to live if for whatever his reason he seriously and really does not want to live.

[August]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Maybe we should blow people up instead. That would be quick, give them a plastic explosive helmet. But still the problem of the mess.

Wasn't there a Rutger Hauer movie that had explosive neck bands? That'd work...

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by August

Wasn't there a Rutger Hauer movie that had explosive neck bands? That'd work...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103239/

I thought I was the only man alive who watched that sack of crap.

Funny how he gets chained to a chick, and not some toothless meth addict, or baby raper.

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Funny how he gets chained to a chick, and not some toothless meth addict, or baby raper.

Nope he gets chained to hot babes only. It's in his contract.

[Wolferz]

Originally Posted by August

Nope he gets chained to hot babes only. It's in his contract.

Off with his head.