Boater chases mysterious periscope off Hollywood beach - Page 2

TLAM Strike · 06-21-10, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

What is the operation range of North Korea's best sub?

Well their longest range sub is the Romeo class with a range of 14,000 nm (according to combat fleets of the world- Wikipedia list 9,000 nm as its range). Sufficient for the trip.

Their Sang O class boats have a range of 1,500 miles which are their longest range indigenous small subs.

However their is another way too, look at this photo:

This is a captured North Korean 'P-4' class small submarine. Notice her bow? That eye bolt like thing? Its likely that is for towing the sub long distances using a trawler or freighter. A North Korea cargo ship could tow her to the US West coast and release her once its in range then pick her up later.

XabbaRus · 06-21-10, 12:13 PM

We should make a subsim knock off of the Sang-O.

How hard can it be?

TLAM Strike · 06-21-10, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

We should make a subsim knock off of the Sang-O.

How hard can it be?

I'm with you on that one! We can build it at my house, on Lake Ontario we only have to worry about the Canadian Navy spying on us. There is a 60 meter long pier and several waterfront buildings about five miles away that are totally disused. That could be our base of operations.

Seriously! Look how primitive the Sang O is:

we could build that!

Platapus · 06-21-10, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I once ate some shrimp and then farted.

One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.

SteamWake · 06-21-10, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Well their longest range sub is the Romeo class with a range of 14,000 nm (according to combat fleets of the world- Wikipedia list 9,000 nm as its range). Sufficient for the trip.

Their Sang O class boats have a range of 1,500 miles which are their longest range indigenous small subs.

However their is another way too, look at this photo:

This is a captured North Korean 'P-4' class small submarine. Notice her bow? That eye bolt like thing? Its likely that is for towing the sub long distances using a trawler or freighter. A North Korea cargo ship could tow her to the US West coast and release her once its in range then pick her up later.

Well I'm strictly a layman but I wouldent trust a 'long tow at sea' to that wimpy lil eye bolt.

Weiss Pinguin · 06-22-10, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Well I'm strictly a layman but I wouldent trust a 'long tow at sea' to that wimpy lil eye bolt.

I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing

Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

krashkart · 06-22-10, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing

Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

Incorrect! Only the powers of Glorious Leader hold all things together.

SteamWake · 06-22-10, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing

Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

Not duct tape... oh god I have it all wrong !

Weiss Pinguin · 06-22-10, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Not duct tape... oh god I have it all wrong !

Don't you know Kim Jong Il invented duct tape?

Jimbuna · 06-22-10, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

Don't you know Kim Jong Il invented duct tape?

LOL, look at what happened to the last poor unfortunate he tested it on.

He obviously said somethingt wasn't appreciated

SteamWake · 06-22-10, 02:17 PM

MrYenko · 06-22-10, 07:47 PM

I live maybe 10 miles north of Hollywood, FL, and I've been fishing in that area, and farther offshore, on and off for quite some time.

I find the idea of a submerged submarine in that area a bit hard to believe, and the idea that he was doing anything resembling 20kn nearly impossible. Ive never seen the navigation charts of the area, but my rough knowledge is that the seafloor off the southeast Florida coast is VERY gently sloped. between 3-5nm offshore, I don't think there's many (If any) places where its more than 100-200ft deep.

In water that shallow, I don't see a USN nuke doing more than a few knots, and I seriously doubt anyone else would risk being that close to shore, seeing how there's nothing militarily important to look at, and you're well within US territorial waters. (Lots of NON-military things to look at, though, Particularly if you've got a good magnification factor in your optics...

)

Either the observer has terrible recollection skills, is lying through his teeth, mistook what he saw, or the North Koreans are coming.

We'll probably never know, though; If it was a USN vessel, they'll never admit it, and if it wasn't, they'll also never admit it.

ivank · 06-22-10, 09:59 PM

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SteamWake · 06-22-10, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrYenko

I live maybe 10 miles north of Hollywood, FL, and I've been fishing in that area, and farther offshore, on and off for quite some time.

I find the idea of a submerged submarine in that area a bit hard to believe, and the idea that he was doing anything resembling 20kn nearly impossible. Ive never seen the navigation charts of the area, but my rough knowledge is that the seafloor off the southeast Florida coast is VERY gently sloped. between 3-5nm offshore, I don't think there's many (If any) places where its more than 100-200ft deep.

In water that shallow, I don't see a USN nuke doing more than a few knots, and I seriously doubt anyone else would risk being that close to shore, seeing how there's nothing militarily important to look at, and you're well within US territorial waters. (Lots of NON-military things to look at, though, Particularly if you've got a good magnification factor in your optics...

)

Either the observer has terrible recollection skills, is lying through his teeth, mistook what he saw, or the North Koreans are coming.

We'll probably never know, though; If it was a USN vessel, they'll never admit it, and if it wasn't, they'll also never admit it.

He is right the water is pretty shallow out there till about 10 miles or so.

TLAM Strike · 06-22-10, 10:21 PM

D'oh, silly me. When I read Hollywood I thought of California!

Florida, frack, forget North Korea its was probably Cuban! Maybe one of their new Delfin class midget subs:

^Only known photograph. Taken in Havana.

Could perhaps have been a Venezuelan Type 209 class snooping about too.

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MrYenko Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 30 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I live maybe 10 miles north of Hollywood, FL, and I've been fishing in that area, and farther offshore, on and off for quite some time. I find the idea of a submerged submarine in that area a bit hard to believe, and the idea that he was doing anything resembling 20kn nearly impossible. Ive never seen the navigation charts of the area, but my rough knowledge is that the seafloor off the southeast Florida coast is VERY gently sloped. between 3-5nm offshore, I don't think there's many (If any) places where its more than 100-200ft deep. In water that shallow, I don't see a USN nuke doing more than a few knots, and I seriously doubt anyone else would risk being that close to shore, seeing how there's nothing militarily important to look at, and you're well within US territorial waters. (Lots of NON-military things to look at, though, Particularly if you've got a good magnification factor in your optics... ) Either the observer has terrible recollection skills, is lying through his teeth, mistook what he saw, or the North Koreans are coming. We'll probably never know, though; If it was a USN vessel, they'll never admit it, and if it wasn't, they'll also never admit it. __________________ Audentes fortuna juvat

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	D'oh, silly me. When I read Hollywood I thought of California! Florida, frack, forget North Korea its was probably Cuban! Maybe one of their new Delfin class midget subs: ^Only known photograph. Taken in Havana. Could perhaps have been a Venezuelan Type 209 class snooping about too. __________________