Getting a 'sinking' feeling about SH5

[Adriatico]

Originally Posted by IanC

And nothing wrong with asking questions, but there is a problem if people start complaining about lack of answers. Because that's not how it works.
You see, Ubi is a hot babe and her equally hot girlfriends (the devs) are way out of our league. You can go ahead and call them all you want, but don't expect them to call back.

Well... we had an avalange of genuine questions and concerns, in variety of threads, and finally we had an answer:
" I'm not really Dan, I'm just a "virtual actor" paid to behave like a smarter version of him."

Many thanks for answer WIP member of this forum, many thanks for your effort in development... but every member with some "grey compound within skull" should find this current situation at forum- pointless (if not humiliating)

So... I am "bailing out" from this forum (sorry Neal) till some less senseless times... somewere in April/May2010.

I deeply apologise to "untouchables" for shaking their sky and I apologise to simulation fans for my apparently "useless effort" - to help our comunnity and our future hobby and passion.

Best regards to all members... and see you in a near (more constructive) future...

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

This seems odd, to fill a post admonishing speculators with phrases like "I think" and "I believe" while referring to speculative features. Or perhaps only you can speculate? Perhaps only "positive" speculation is acceptable? I think not and that is opinion not speculation.

People look at the available information, which is pretty slim all things considered and see things they like or do not see evidence of features that are desirable. Yet just because something is not seen does not mean it's not there so speculation on SH5 content is certainly valid.

From my perspective (and only my perspective) I have seen no evidence to indicate that SH5 will be superior to SH3+GWX in any respect other than the eye candy to which I am entirely indifferent. If you see other things, good for you but advocating muzzling people whilst barking up a storm lends your points of view little credibility in my book.

Within all the hyperbole nobody seems to notice that if the developers produce the simulation that some are attributing to them than the hugely talented pool of Modders around here might have little to do. Strange that some speculate what a great game SH5 will become but only after the Modders have their way with the stock version. Perhaps there is more fanboyism and wishful thinking than objective analysis based on available hard information going on here.

Just an opinion.

Because of your obvious arrogance, you totally miss the point. You've only been gracing us with your presence since January 2008, so you have little knowledge of the speculative nonsense that goes on here during the lead up to the release of a new Silent Hunter game.

I'd stick to your pacific island if I were you. The inhabitants there might actually be impressed with you.

Just an opinion.

It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good. So please keep the gushy FanBoyism till the game has been released OR the community is provided with some REAL information instead of the dribble we have received so far.

And for those who hate speculation.....well if the community had a better idea of what the main features of SH5 actually are then they wouldn't have to speculate. Alas only UBI can provide that info...perhaps they are not FanBoys of SubSIm.

[Reece]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Silent Hunter V will be Silent Hunter IV patched to 1.5 with some bells and whistles. First person perspective, crew interraction and better graphics. If you're looking for more than that with the stock game then don't buy it.

There you go threatening me again!!

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Because of your obvious arrogance, you totally miss the point. You've only been gracing us with your presence since January 2008, so you have little knowledge of the speculative nonsense that goes on here during the lead up to the release of a new Silent Hunter game.

I'd stick to your pacific island if I were you. The inhabitants there might actually be impressed with you.

Just an opinion.

Classic! Mere Post count or time as forum member = credibility.

I lurked these forums for years before joining and since then have read much but posted reletively little. I have the point just fine but you obviously do not since you were unwilling or incapable of addressing any of my observations. Far, far better to invoke the small-minded tyranny of the post count.

UBISoft probably has valid commercial reasons for keeping information tight but a problem stemming from that is when people can't see it, they tend to make it up. Some will see sweetness and light and dancing bears others will see an unmitigated disaster. Like most things, SH5 will likely fall somewhere in the middle. I'm still inclined to watch and shoot.

[conus00]

How about UBI releasing two SH5 games:
Hardcore simulation version: "Silent Hunter V: Battle of the Atlantic" and 13-year-old oriented FPS console-like shooter called "Silent Hunter V: Shoot'em All Up In the Middle of the Atlantic (Lite)"?

There you have it. Problem solved!

[Paajtor]

I'd probably buy both

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good. So please keep the gushy FanBoyism till the game has been released OR the community is provided with some REAL information instead of the dribble we have received so far.

Nothing prevent you from not reading them...

If still not satisfied, create your own forum exclusively for your clique.

[The General]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

Classic! Mere Post count or time as forum member = credibility.

I lurked these forums for years before joining and since then have read much but posted reletively little. I have the point just fine but you obviously do not since you were unwilling or incapable of addressing any of my observations. Far, far better to invoke the small-minded tyranny of the post count.

UBISoft probably has valid commercial reasons for keeping information tight but a problem stemming from that is when people can't see it, they tend to make it up. Some will see sweetness and light and dancing bears others will see an unmitigated disaster. Like most things, SH5 will likely fall somewhere in the middle. I'm still inclined to watch and shoot.

I personally like the cut of this man's jib


How could anybody who's watched the actual gameplay footage, seen on that German TV/Web show recently, not be impressed with the way SH5 is shaping up? It looks fantastic!

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good.

Usually Fanboys are the first to cheer the game before it comes, and then they're the first to bash the game for any bugs. Fanboys have the biggest expectations and hope for the game and thus they'll be the easiest to disappoint. So don't worry, genuine compliments will not be falsified if the released game deserves them.

Originally Posted by IanC

Well...How many hundred thousands of copies do they sell of, say, just SH3? A web search will show you that the SH series sold over 1.5 milllion copies world wide. You do the math about forum posters vs copies sold... it's not that hard to come to a conclusion.

And nothing wrong with asking questions, but there is a problem if people start complaining about lack of answers. Because that's not how it works.
You see, Ubi is a hot babe and her equally hot girlfriends (the devs) are way out of our league. You can go ahead and call them all you want, but don't expect them to call back.

Who appointed you judge?

[IanC]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Who appointed you judge?

huh?

[Lord Justice]

Sirs, it gives me great concern, to undertake another post of which is not from a fanboy, just a bitter renewal of my objection to the seemingly excessive amount of complaints. (Providers) we should all make allowances for the devs to extract the content from the offerings and advice of the modders, bugfixes, threads, posts, etc.. Q When does the door close, and if sealed already, when will continuous complaints falter ? SH5 is not to long off now so... To (2nd Guessers) Does it really deserve or warrant ridicule? Does it serve to allow some followers to presumptuously attest, and discourse, unfinished development ? In my humble opinion one should await final release, and then perhaps they may not rue their words. I Must beg leave to express how glad i am, made by the return of SH series. I find it difficult to hold fourth my gratitude, in its making. In justice to the sim i must here say that no utterance by members could induce me to abandon my stance. Had i attempted to to mark early faults, then my doubts would have been exposed to unfortunate humiliation linked to quite possibly a lenghty self explanation. My single and only complaint thus far is however not aimed at the game, but of the conduct, and mannerism of some higher ranked vetran sub simmers, to which carry a distinguished mark of subsim favour. Some of their accounts vexed me, although did not suprise me. Is it scarcely credible to think that (some) of these (MatureBoys) even fall to the folly and imprudence of their friends, of which i deem unpardonable. To this end one believes that SH5 is not sinking, but rather some kind of order amongst ourselves. With the greatest respect and regard. p.s @ Meo, I read your post and am sensible of the small obliging response in this debate of which iam concerned.

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Usually Fanboys are the first to cheer the game before it comes, and then they're the first to bash the game for any bugs. Fanboys have the biggest expectations and hope for the game and thus they'll be the easiest to disappoint.

Indeed, Such wit must be awarded. Excuse this hasty scrowl.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Gruber
It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good. So please keep the gushy FanBoyism till the game has been released OR the community is provided with some REAL information instead of the dribble we have received so far.

Nothing prevent you from not reading them...

If still not satisfied, create your own forum exclusively for your clique.

Thanyou Meo for your input. I am somewhat ashamed to highlight that I have no clique, alas I haven't even been invited to join one - I guess I just didn't make the grade huh?

I for one am very interested in what people have to say about all topics and so it was with great pleasure that I read your reply. I would therefore like to take this opportunity to thankyou for reading my post and for taking the time to reply in order to express your oppinion.

I look forward to the day that all members of this community can express their oppinion without the risk of ridicule. However, as much as I accept that in some quarters of the world FanBoyism is, in itself, an expression of opinion, I am forced to contradict myself because, frankly, FanBoyism makes me want to dig my innards out with a rusty spoon and feed it to Amazonian Lesser-spotted Bull Frogs.

So I do hope you will accept this obvious flaw in my otherwise reputable character. To err is human as they say.

Thanks awfully for your understanding in this matter.

UG

[Steeltrap]

Seems a few people might benefit from a cool shower and a break.

This plaqce is normally about the most reasonable forum I know. It would be a shame for people to start sqabbling.

Not pointing fingers or saying anyone is "right" or "wrong", simply suggesting everyone remember to show some respect, refrain from name-calling and, if not able to do those, then abstain for a while.

Be a shame if we have to get the moderators to motivate a little peace through the brig....

Cheers all.