Getting a 'sinking' feeling about SH5

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good.

Usually Fanboys are the first to cheer the game before it comes, and then they're the first to bash the game for any bugs. Fanboys have the biggest expectations and hope for the game and thus they'll be the easiest to disappoint. So don't worry, genuine compliments will not be falsified if the released game deserves them.

[Lord Justice]

Sirs, it gives me great concern, to undertake another post of which is not from a fanboy, just a bitter renewal of my objection to the seemingly excessive amount of complaints. (Providers) we should all make allowances for the devs to extract the content from the offerings and advice of the modders, bugfixes, threads, posts, etc.. Q When does the door close, and if sealed already, when will continuous complaints falter ? SH5 is not to long off now so... To (2nd Guessers) Does it really deserve or warrant ridicule? Does it serve to allow some followers to presumptuously attest, and discourse, unfinished development ? In my humble opinion one should await final release, and then perhaps they may not rue their words. I Must beg leave to express how glad i am, made by the return of SH series. I find it difficult to hold fourth my gratitude, in its making. In justice to the sim i must here say that no utterance by members could induce me to abandon my stance. Had i attempted to to mark early faults, then my doubts would have been exposed to unfortunate humiliation linked to quite possibly a lenghty self explanation. My single and only complaint thus far is however not aimed at the game, but of the conduct, and mannerism of some higher ranked vetran sub simmers, to which carry a distinguished mark of subsim favour. Some of their accounts vexed me, although did not suprise me. Is it scarcely credible to think that (some) of these (MatureBoys) even fall to the folly and imprudence of their friends, of which i deem unpardonable. To this end one believes that SH5 is not sinking, but rather some kind of order amongst ourselves. With the greatest respect and regard. p.s @ Meo, I read your post and am sensible of the small obliging response in this debate of which iam concerned.

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Usually Fanboys are the first to cheer the game before it comes, and then they're the first to bash the game for any bugs. Fanboys have the biggest expectations and hope for the game and thus they'll be the easiest to disappoint.

Indeed, Such wit must be awarded. Excuse this hasty scrowl.

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Originally Posted by Uber Gruber
It sickens me to see FanBoyism to be honest. Not only is it an embaressment to read but it also undermines 'genuine' compliments when someone achieves something good. So please keep the gushy FanBoyism till the game has been released OR the community is provided with some REAL information instead of the dribble we have received so far.

Nothing prevent you from not reading them...

If still not satisfied, create your own forum exclusively for your clique.

Thanyou Meo for your input. I am somewhat ashamed to highlight that I have no clique, alas I haven't even been invited to join one - I guess I just didn't make the grade huh?

I for one am very interested in what people have to say about all topics and so it was with great pleasure that I read your reply. I would therefore like to take this opportunity to thankyou for reading my post and for taking the time to reply in order to express your oppinion.

I look forward to the day that all members of this community can express their oppinion without the risk of ridicule. However, as much as I accept that in some quarters of the world FanBoyism is, in itself, an expression of opinion, I am forced to contradict myself because, frankly, FanBoyism makes me want to dig my innards out with a rusty spoon and feed it to Amazonian Lesser-spotted Bull Frogs.

So I do hope you will accept this obvious flaw in my otherwise reputable character. To err is human as they say.

Thanks awfully for your understanding in this matter.

UG

[Steeltrap]

Seems a few people might benefit from a cool shower and a break.

This plaqce is normally about the most reasonable forum I know. It would be a shame for people to start sqabbling.

Not pointing fingers or saying anyone is "right" or "wrong", simply suggesting everyone remember to show some respect, refrain from name-calling and, if not able to do those, then abstain for a while.

Be a shame if we have to get the moderators to motivate a little peace through the brig....

Cheers all.

[karamazovnew]

Shake hands, make peace and go back to the bow torpedo room, the captain's there trying to Use Meo's special ability. Plus, UG you have a torpedo to load.

As a side note... god damn this SH5. I can't play SH3 and SH4 anymore I want the new one

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Seems a few people might benefit from a cool shower and a break.

This plaqce is normally about the most reasonable forum I know. It would be a shame for people to start sqabbling.

Not pointing fingers or saying anyone is "right" or "wrong", simply suggesting everyone remember to show some respect, refrain from name-calling and, if not able to do those, then abstain for a while.

Be a shame if we have to get the moderators to motivate a little peace through the brig....

Cheers all.

Alright, alright, I should have retain myself and simply let it go.

[TDK1044]

I can't see how you can get a sinking feeling about a game based on a handful of screenshots and a couple of short promotional videos that show limited game detail and none of the options menu screens.

That statement is in no way intended to muzzle anyone who disagrees. I just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released, and not judge it based on glimpses of the game probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs.

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I can't see how you can get a sinking feeling about a game based on a handful of screenshots and a couple of short promotional videos that show limited game detail and none of the options menu screens.

That statement is in no way intended to muzzle anyone who disagrees. I just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released, and not judge it based on glimpses of the game probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs.

People can get a sinking feeling for exactly the same reasons they might be elated or anything in between. At this stage both points of view have exactly the same validity.

What information released to date allows us to make opinions based on whatever personal lens we view these sorts of things. Some are "glass half full" types and some are "glass half empty" types. I tend to take the pragmatic view that if either is true, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

All reasonably presented viewpoints are good, assault on those with whom you might disagree is not so good. Once the game has been released all this will be moot as discussion turns to the final results and some will crow in triumph while others wail in despair at a wasted purchase.

In the end though, it's just a computer game.

Good Hunting

[Adriatico]

I promised to keep away from SHV forum for two months... but you forced me to open my mouth just one more time:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I can't see how you can get a sinking feeling about a game based on a handful of screenshots and a couple of short promotional videos that show limited game detail and none of the options menu screens.

That statement is in no way intended to muzzle anyone who disagrees. I just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released, and not judge it based on glimpses of the game probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs.

What is it... that you can't see?
He get a feeling based on screenshots and promotional videos. So what is he supposed to get?
He never mentioned a final judgment.
These screenshots and videos are made to rise impressions and feelings - and have no other purpose... so it is the most logical thing in this world: if you release promotional video on web - to bare impressions and feelings

"...and none of the options menu screens."
Do you think that "menu screens" would propose to you:
- to move periscope from far right to central position ?
- to remove cartoonish white outline from pointed parts of interior ?
- ...etc

"just believe that we should judge the game when it's actually released"
Of course, we should... but when you get it on your hard disc - you can change zero (0)
This is a "last minute" desperate attempt to point out some features that we (final users) feel as wrong... provided that Devs care about it ?

"...probably released by Marketing and not by the Devs"
What difference does it make who has released them ?
Marketing is just presenting what Devs made...

If we should rise our impressions when the game is released... what is purpose of this SHV forum... opened months before release ?

[Lord Justice]

Gentlemen thank you, if one possesses a double edged sword, then let it cut if need be, as long as it has the visable markings of mannerism, and respect, etched on to it. By your leave. P.S The torp, had no decent guidance, way of the mark dear fellow, now i know who my silent hunters are! My move

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Usually Fanboys are the first to cheer the game before it comes, and then they're the first to bash the game for any bugs. Fanboys have the biggest expectations and hope for the game and thus they'll be the easiest to disappoint. So don't worry, genuine compliments will not be falsified if the released game deserves them.

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If the following Urban dictionary definition of Fanboy is correct....

'A passionate fan of various elements of geek culture (e.g. sci-fi, comics, Star Wars, video games, anime, hobbits, Magic: the Gathering, etc.), but who lets his passion override social graces.'

..Then I think its probably fair to say that there isnt a single 'non-fanboy' on this entire forum.

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by JU_88

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If the following Urban dictionary definition of Fanboy is correct....

'A passionate fan of various elements of geek culture (e.g. sci-fi, comics, Star Wars, video games, anime, hobbits, Magic: the Gathering, etc.), but who lets his passion override social graces.'

..Then I think its probably fair to say that there isnt a single 'non-fanboy' on this entire forum.

How dare you include Star Wars and leave out Star Trek?!

Forgive me Spock, for this outburst of emotion. I'll now go and meditate.

[Adriatico]

Have to open my mouth again...


At new set of screens at russian site there is visible improvement on famous "periscope screen" compared to previous one (top):
- periscope view is bit larger that previous one
- shifted more to central part of screen, instead of far right
- edges of per. seems softer with crew boy out of main sight

It already looks better, especially at large screens (feeling is better...)
***
Does it mean that heavens heard our cry ?
Or we owe this one to Neal ?
(or is it simply different product ?)
http://www.buka.ru/cgi-bin/show.pl?i...pe=screenshots

[Apos]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Have to open my mouth again...


At new set of screens at russian site there is visible improvement on famous "periscope screen" compared to previous one (top):
- periscope view is bit larger that previous one
- shifted more to central part of screen, instead of far right
- edges of per. seems softer with crew boy out of main sight

It already looks better, especially at large screens (feeling is better...)
***
Does it mean that heavens heard our cry ?
Or we owe this one to Neal ?
(or is it simply different product ?)
http://www.buka.ru/cgi-bin/show.pl?i...pe=screenshots

2nd pic seems to have diffrent screen resolution or smaller HUD. Anyway, those health bars remids me one thing: where are first aid kits? Ships can collect them from the air drops and restore HP?

Anyway what i have found



minimap, 3 teamkills? Or those are friendly ships sunk by Allied forces? So there will be small naval battles? 2nd thing what is interesting. Chat windows is similar to these from RPG's where u can choose answer.



Water really looks nice! Also check left top corner. Numbers tells us what type of torpedo is loaded.



Minimap scared me. I dont know what are those numbers on torpedo and ship path. Also big orange transgle has returned



Same screen as above but larger scale. I noticed there are two health bars, one is blue, second is yellow. Hmmm sinking and ship structure health points?



HMS Illustrious I think.



ps. Adriatico your link doesn't work. Here is fixed link http://buka.ru/cgi-bin/show.pl?id=487&type=screenshots