[POLL] Monitor size (Specially NYGM users, but also anyone else)

Hitman · 10-17-09, 02:46 PM

Hi all,

I'm working in an update of my optics mod, and will release the NYGM as primary version, but also some more for other supermods. For the purpose of deciding the final size of the periscope view in the screen I'd like to know which monitor size you guys are using. Smaller monitors will require, to provide the desired effect, a larger viewport, while larger ones will be OK with a smaller one.

Thanks for taking two seconds to click on the poll option, no need to leave comments if you are short on time but I appreciate your help

Preview of the VERY EARLY BETA so you can understand what I mean by viewport size, and gauge it in your own screen:

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-17-09, 02:48 PM

Voted!

Think the usual resolution from these days onward will be 1680x1050

piri_reis · 10-17-09, 03:05 PM

Thanks for still working on this great mod, Hitman.

22" and 1680x1050 here.

Paulowanclift · 10-17-09, 03:16 PM

22" 1920x1080 here, I don't think that will be typical though. Common wide screen tends to be 1680x1050.

Jimbuna · 10-17-09, 03:38 PM

22" 1680 x 1050

makman94 · 10-17-09, 04:41 PM

l like very much the shadows in your dials Hitman!

i have a question, why is the matter of size screen? does the view is effected by the screen's size ?

i mean that-poor english-if you have a bigger screen don't all the objects getting analogical...larger?

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-17-09, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makman94

l like very much the shadows in your dials Hitman!

i have a question, why is the matter of size screen? does the view is effected by the screen's size ?

i mean that-poor english-if you have a bigger screen don't all the objects getting analogical...larger?

He probably want to know what's the most used resolution so he can build up a gui to that especific resolution, since SH3 doesn't auto arrange stuff around when you change the resolution. He might even be considering a resolution selector built-in his supermod.

makman94 · 10-17-09, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

.... since SH3 doesn't auto arrange stuff around when you change the resolution......

i think that sh3 with res fix does arrange items (the issue you describe Phillip is happening only at sh4 but maybe i am wrong here,not sure about that)
anyway,Hitman... i am the last of Mohicans....i am using 1024x768 at a 20'' screen !!

flakmonkey · 10-17-09, 06:29 PM

24" 1920*1080 or + 15.2" laptop screen (1280*800)

CapZap1970 · 10-17-09, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

24" 1920*1080 or + 15.2" laptop screen (1280*800)

same here, except for the laptop...

dcb · 10-18-09, 12:58 AM

22" 1280 x 800

Hitman · 10-18-09, 04:03 AM

Many thanks for the input, guys

Quote:

i have a question, why is the matter of size screen? does the view is effected by the screen's size ?

i mean that-poor english-if you have a bigger screen don't all the objects getting analogical...larger?

If you look at the screenshot you will see that the viewport for the periscope has a lot of empty black space around it. This is because the periscope has been intentionally made smaller than in other mods, where it sometimes covers the whole screen. The reason is that my GUI mod is built around a new concept, which implies tweaking the camera view angles in ALL views, not just scopes, etc, but also bridge, control room, etc. because currently there is no proportion between them: You get a comparatively much better sight of everything when using periscopes, etc, than when surfaced, and the zoom and detail of observed objects increases in the wrong proportion.

But reducing the size of the scope viewport will only produce a reasonable effect in monitors that are large enough to give enough detail, as f.e. a 15 inch monitor with such a small viewport will be probably too uncomfortable for the player. Thus, I want to know the average size of monitors to tweak the viewport accordingly, as ALL other camera angles in the game will depend from that.

What I want is that the player gets an overall better sense of proportions and distances in the game, i.e. that he starts being able -as was done in real life- to start estimating distances by naked eye, and that when looking through the optics, the correct proportions are kept instead of introducing an element of distortion because of their too high detail and zoom.

This will allow the use of quick range estimate tables like this one (Copied from a real life one!), which I'm trying to incorporate as slide-out:

and also an overall better depth perception, despite the 2D screen. This has a huge effect not just in targetting but also in maneuvering!

Thanks

Reece · 10-18-09, 05:31 AM

Samsung 24" Wide Screen.

Desktop res. 1680x1050

coronas · 10-18-09, 05:46 AM

Great work again, Hitman!
22" and 1680x1050 here.

Stiebler · 10-18-09, 05:58 AM

I say also 'Great Work!', Hitman. I use your current manual targeting system all the time.

I voted 17-inch, which is what I have currently, but that is likely to change very soon with the release of Win-7. So I'm not sure how much my vote is relevant.

Stiebler.

View Poll Results: Monitor size!
A poor 15 inch still!	2	3.23%
A just enough 17 inch	8	12.90%
Proud owner of a reasionable 19 inch	14	22.58%
Say what? Nothing less than 20+ inches here, baby!	38	61.29%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-09, 02:46 PM	#1
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	[POLL] Monitor size (Specially NYGM users, but also anyone else) Hi all, I'm working in an update of my optics mod, and will release the NYGM as primary version, but also some more for other supermods. For the purpose of deciding the final size of the periscope view in the screen I'd like to know which monitor size you guys are using. Smaller monitors will require, to provide the desired effect, a larger viewport, while larger ones will be OK with a smaller one. Thanks for taking two seconds to click on the poll option, no need to leave comments if you are short on time but I appreciate your help Preview of the VERY EARLY BETA so you can understand what I mean by viewport size, and gauge it in your own screen: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

10-17-09, 02:48 PM	#2
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Voted! Think the usual resolution from these days onward will be 1680x1050 __________________ To each his own

10-17-09, 03:05 PM	#3
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Thanks for still working on this great mod, Hitman. 22" and 1680x1050 here. __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

10-17-09, 03:38 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,565 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	22" 1680 x 1050 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-17-09, 03:16 PM	#4
Paulowanclift Seaman Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 33 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	22" 1920x1080 here, I don't think that will be typical though. Common wide screen tends to be 1680x1050.

10-17-09, 04:41 PM	#6
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	l like very much the shadows in your dials Hitman! i have a question, why is the matter of size screen? does the view is effected by the screen's size ? i mean that-poor english-if you have a bigger screen don't all the objects getting analogical...larger? __________________ Knowledge is the only thing that nobody can ever take from you... Mediafire page:http://www.mediafire.com/folder/da50.../Makman94_Mods

10-17-09, 06:29 PM	#9
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	24" 19201080 or + 15.2" laptop screen (1280800) __________________

10-18-09, 12:58 AM	#11
dcb Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 845 Downloads: 544 Uploads: 0	22" 1280 x 800

10-18-09, 05:31 AM	#13
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,723 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Samsung 24" Wide Screen. Desktop res. 1680x1050 __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!* Last edited by Reece; 10-18-09 at 07:00 PM.

10-18-09, 05:46 AM	#14
coronas Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Asturias, España Posts: 1,168 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Great work again, Hitman! 22" and 1680x1050 here. __________________

10-18-09, 05:58 AM	#15
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	I say also 'Great Work!', Hitman. I use your current manual targeting system all the time. I voted 17-inch, which is what I have currently, but that is likely to change very soon with the release of Win-7. So I'm not sure how much my vote is relevant. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience!