Um, right.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/us...vote.html?_r=1

Why won't Republican politicians be honest and say: "We want to make it harder for those who might vote against us to actually vote"? It's comically transparent.

[Morts]

why wont you stop posting your stupid hit and run BS/trolling

[Oberon]

In before-



*sigh* I'm not even trying anymore...

[Betonov]

cheers

sooooo, the issue is, that they want a law that will require you to show ID with a picture on it before you vote. That's how we have it. Where's the problem

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Oberon

In before-



*sigh* I'm not even trying anymore...

In before Guinness?

For the sake of argument, something should be 'in' (thy stomach) before the Guinness. Otherwise the Guinness and everything else washed down with it could come back up again... and that's just no way to treat a proper beverage.



Thish PSA brrrought t'you by.... *hiccup*

Thish PSA... lol did I jusht shay <bleep>?

Thish Pee Essay... *burp*

What?!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Why won't Republican politicians be honest and say: "We want to make it harder for those who might vote against us to actually vote"? It's comically transparent.

Because traditionally illegals, convicted felons and dead people tend to vote Democratic.

You're the one who's comically transparent.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Because traditionally illegals, convicted felons and dead people tend to vote Democratic.

I've heard lots of people complaining that the Democrats are supporting voter fraud. I've heard (especially being in Texas) that Democrats have been working hard to get illegal immigrants to vote. Dead voters, fake people, ex-cons, ballot box stuffing, etc., all by the Democrat party.

I guess that's why the Democrats won a majority in the House last November.



(Or the problem is not quite as bad as certain fear-mongers have led us to believe?)



I have no problem with a law that requires an ID check for voting, as long as the law also provides a method for everyone entitled to vote with a free, and relatively simple to obtain, voting ID.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by razark

(Or the problem is not quite as bad as certain fear-mongers have led us to believe?)

That would be my guess. My reply was strictly for TvM, who is clearly a troll of the worst kind. He almost never actually discusses anything, but makes hit-and-run posts like this one.

I have no problem with a law that requires an ID check for voting, as long as the law also provides a method for everyone entitled to vote with a free, and relatively simple to obtain, voting ID.

That's a fair requirement, I agree.

[RickC Sniper]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/us...vote.html?_r=1

Why won't Republican politicians be honest and say: "We want to make it harder for those who might vote against us to actually vote"? It's comically transparent.

Why would ANYONE be against something designed to stop fraud at the ballot box?

[elephantium]

Why? "Papers, please."

It's implicitly accusing every voter of fraud and forcing each of us to prove otherwise by showing our papers.

It's also implicitly a poll tax -- many people have IDs for other reasons, but some people would still need to get IDs purely in order to vote.

In short, it's un-American.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by elephantium

Why? "Papers, please."

It's implicitly accusing every voter of fraud and forcing each of us to prove otherwise by showing our papers.

It's also implicitly a poll tax -- many people have IDs for other reasons, but some people would still need to get IDs purely in order to vote.

In short, it's un-American.

exactly. its making people jump through hoops. I think another reason is younger voters...they're trying to get them to think all the trouble isn't worth it. Younger voters vote blue

[Takeda Shingen]

I did not bother to read anything that preceeded my post, but will state that I am against anything that Rick is for.

[RickC Sniper]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I did not bother to read anything that preceeded my post, but will state that I am against anything that Rick is for.

You said that without producing your I.D. Therefore, it doesn't count.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

exactly. its making people jump through hoops. I think another reason is younger voters...they're trying to get them to think all the trouble isn't worth it. Younger voters vote blue

I have to disagree
I made a post a while back, about how stereotypically young people are all left wingers, but in reality young people's political orientations mirror society as a whole

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

exactly. its making people jump through hoops. I think another reason is younger voters...they're trying to get them to think all the trouble isn't worth it. Younger voters vote blue

Wait, at 18 years of age you are legally required to have a state I.D. if you don't have a drivers license. In fact your legally required to carry said I.D. on you at all times when you leave your home. So by that very reasoning why would it be an issue to show said I.D. before you vote? Jump through hoops? If they don't already have a valid I.D. chances are they shouldn't vote because they probably are not citizens!