On the Absence of Preview Copies (So far)

Iron Budokan · 02-03-10, 02:10 PM

I find this particularly worrisome. Four weeks out and nada.

But I was thinking. Maybe the servers they have dedicated to this project haven't been brought up to speed yet? I mean, you have to be online and on their server to play this game, right. So maybe the reason there are no preview copies out is because the server(s) they are dedicating to handing traffic aren't up yet?

I mean, I'm going out on a limb here, but you would think they're not using just any old server but something up to date that can handle the expected user load. Maybe that's not ready yet so in that case there's no need to have preview copies floating around? Dunno.

Anyway, I'm not very technologically oriented so someone who is should be able to speak to this issue with more authority. Hey. I can barely tie my shoes before coffee in the morning. Give me a break!

TH0R · 02-03-10, 02:16 PM

If it means they are working on the game rather than wasting time on preview material - all fine by me. But it could also mean they still have a lot to do before March 4th...

MercurySeven · 02-03-10, 02:17 PM

As tests of review versions by magazines have shown there ARE review versions around. They are, however, not finished, still have some bugs in them and most importantly none of us have access to them.

Ah, and if I remember right they did not have the campaign in them either. Just single missions.

02-03-10, 02:20 PM

very astoot (im sure thats spellled wrong) observation

IMO a game designed to need servers to run it must have the servers in operation to work and this may be the reason no preview copies were sent out since they would be unusable paperweights anyway.

not to mention doing this, if it feel into the wrong hands, might also give someone a head start to creating a work around for the online requirement

both of these things would do nothing possitive so it may only be that they havent released anything yet because they dont have anything to release yet

Sailor Steve · 02-03-10, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

astoot (im sure thats spellled wrong)

Stop taunting me! You did that on purpose!

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IMO a game designed to need servers to run it must have the servers in operation to work and this may be the reason no preview copies were sent out since they would be unusable paperweights anyway.

Very good point! I hadn't thought of that.

"Here's your preview copy, Neal. You can run it next month when we get everything up and running."

Safe-Keeper · 02-03-10, 02:27 PM

The screens and films are "fake", and they're really working on the next Star Wars film.

frau kaleun · 02-03-10, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

The screens and films are "fake", and they're really working on the next Star Wars film.

Ah, that explains the cheese factor of the "Your Crew" bios. They've got George Lucas doing the writing.

SteamWake · 02-03-10, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Ah, that explains the cheese factor of the "Your Crew" bios. They've got George Lucas doing the writing.

and here I thought it was these guys

Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson

RIP Gary

Brag · 02-03-10, 03:02 PM

Right now, I imagine, the Market Suits, and the DRMs of Doom promotion department people, must be in a funk. All indications are they are in massive disaray.

Over 18,000 people have visited the DRM in SHV thread. Can't really tell what they think but that is a lot of people reading subversive literature.Ubi management must feel like the KGB as the Soviet system melted down.

You can't impose chains on people who are looking for rope to hang you.
DRM/OSP is the game equivalent of the Berlin wall. In four weeks it's going to crash.

Moo, moo, moo!

oscar19681 · 02-03-10, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

I find this particularly worrisome. Four weeks out and nada.

But I was thinking. Maybe the servers they have dedicated to this project haven't been brought up to speed yet? I mean, you have to be online and on their server to play this game, right. So maybe the reason there are no preview copies out is because the server(s) they are dedicating to handing traffic aren't up yet?

I mean, I'm going out on a limb here, but you would think they're not using just any old server but something up to date that can handle the expected user load. Maybe that's not ready yet so in that case there's no need to have preview copies floating around? Dunno.

Anyway, I'm not very technologically oriented so someone who is should be able to speak to this issue with more authority. Hey. I can barely tie my shoes before coffee in the morning. Give me a break!

So i guess were are not the only one with an information void. So are the reviewers!

Thomen · 02-03-10, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

So i guess were are not the only one with an information void. So are the reviewers!

Good point.. I wonder however if the preview that was given to the German game magazin was a playable version and with that required a constant connection..

MercurySeven · 02-04-10, 02:59 AM

It was playable. It did not contain the campaign mode though. And they did not say anything about the DRM which could mean both that their early *caugh* preview version was without the DRM or that it was already installed and they just did not know by then that this was not only to protect the thing before it was launched from leaking to P2P but also to protect it till kingdom come.

Anyway, the number of review copies must be extremely limited and only a certain number of magazines seems to have access. So setting up a teeny tiny server that handles these limited connections shoudln't be a big issue. I even assume that the system is running already in full as they stated that they can dynamically assign new ressources to a game if more serverpower is needed due to higher demand. Sounds to me like a virtualisation of servers both concerning computing and storage. So right now there are just a few machines in their data center running with the DRM and on March 3rd they just pump it up a notch.

JScones · 02-04-10, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomen

Good point.. I wonder however if the preview that was given to the German game magazin was a playable version and with that required a constant connection..

It was cracked by the devs?

(j/k, in case it's not obvious to anyone)

Ragtag · 02-04-10, 06:35 AM

As far as i know the OSP is being tested with Settlers 7 beta. Review copys hasn't been shipped out yet and previews are playable but information allowed to be published are limited hence the little information.
My guess is that the major sites will receive their review copys about 2-3 weeks prior the release date. That's how it usually works

Jimbuna · 02-04-10, 06:43 AM

I'd have thought the server would have underwent stringent testing long before now considering the potential workload that will obviously be required of it from day one of release......wouldn't it??????

02-03-10, 02:10 PM	#1
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	On the Absence of Preview Copies (So far) I find this particularly worrisome. Four weeks out and nada. But I was thinking. Maybe the servers they have dedicated to this project haven't been brought up to speed yet? I mean, you have to be online and on their server to play this game, right. So maybe the reason there are no preview copies out is because the server(s) they are dedicating to handing traffic aren't up yet? I mean, I'm going out on a limb here, but you would think they're not using just any old server but something up to date that can handle the expected user load. Maybe that's not ready yet so in that case there's no need to have preview copies floating around? Dunno. Anyway, I'm not very technologically oriented so someone who is should be able to speak to this issue with more authority. Hey. I can barely tie my shoes before coffee in the morning. Give me a break! __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-03-10, 02:27 PM	#6
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The screens and films are "fake", and they're really working on the next Star Wars film. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

02-03-10, 03:02 PM	#9
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Right now, I imagine, the Market Suits, and the DRMs of Doom promotion department people, must be in a funk. All indications are they are in massive disaray. Over 18,000 people have visited the DRM in SHV thread. Can't really tell what they think but that is a lot of people reading subversive literature.Ubi management must feel like the KGB as the Soviet system melted down. You can't impose chains on people who are looking for rope to hang you. DRM/OSP is the game equivalent of the Berlin wall. In four weeks it's going to crash. Moo, moo, moo! __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-04-10, 06:35 AM	#14
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	As far as i know the OSP is being tested with Settlers 7 beta. Review copys hasn't been shipped out yet and previews are playable but information allowed to be published are limited hence the little information. My guess is that the major sites will receive their review copys about 2-3 weeks prior the release date. That's how it usually works __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

02-04-10, 06:43 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'd have thought the server would have underwent stringent testing long before now considering the potential workload that will obviously be required of it from day one of release......wouldn't it?????? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-03-10, 02:16 PM	#2
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	If it means they are working on the game rather than wasting time on preview material - all fine by me. But it could also mean they still have a lot to do before March 4th...

02-03-10, 02:17 PM	#3
MercurySeven Mate Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 53 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	As tests of review versions by magazines have shown there ARE review versions around. They are, however, not finished, still have some bugs in them and most importantly none of us have access to them. Ah, and if I remember right they did not have the campaign in them either. Just single missions.

02-03-10, 02:20 PM	#4
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	very astoot (im sure thats spellled wrong) observation IMO a game designed to need servers to run it must have the servers in operation to work and this may be the reason no preview copies were sent out since they would be unusable paperweights anyway. not to mention doing this, if it feel into the wrong hands, might also give someone a head start to creating a work around for the online requirement both of these things would do nothing possitive so it may only be that they havent released anything yet because they dont have anything to release yet

02-04-10, 02:59 AM	#12
MercurySeven Mate Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 53 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	It was playable. It did not contain the campaign mode though. And they did not say anything about the DRM which could mean both that their early caugh preview version was without the DRM or that it was already installed and they just did not know by then that this was not only to protect the thing before it was launched from leaking to P2P but also to protect it till kingdom come. Anyway, the number of review copies must be extremely limited and only a certain number of magazines seems to have access. So setting up a teeny tiny server that handles these limited connections shoudln't be a big issue. I even assume that the system is running already in full as they stated that they can dynamically assign new ressources to a game if more serverpower is needed due to higher demand. Sounds to me like a virtualisation of servers both concerning computing and storage. So right now there are just a few machines in their data center running with the DRM and on March 3rd they just pump it up a notch.