Well Mr. President...

GoldenRivet · 02-21-09, 11:41 AM

Where is all that "hope' you promised?

Is it just me or is Yobama preaching a helluva lot of gloom, doom and fear lately?

the man is an empty box

Digital_Trucker · 02-21-09, 12:36 PM

He's what he has been all along, a politician who will tell you what you want to hear to get elected, then finds out that it's not as simple as he thinks it is and has to perform damage control to get the expectations back down.

mookiemookie · 02-21-09, 01:57 PM

And if he was telling you everything was ice cream and roses, you'd be bitching that he was out of touch with reality.

GoldenRivet · 02-21-09, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And if he was telling you everything was ice cream and roses, you'd be bitching that he was out of touch with reality.

im not saying tell everyone its ice cream and roses.

get "old school" with the speaches... i mean he said "crisis" like 50 times in his last public address.

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

August · 02-21-09, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

FDR was a master at this. President Obama would do well to emulate that style.

GoldenRivet · 02-21-09, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

FDR was a master at this. President Obama would do well to emulate that style.

exactly.

Im not here to bash the guy, but im not here to praise him either.

But from the beginning of his young term we have heard nothing but gloom and doom from the white house.

Platapus · 02-21-09, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

If President Obama were to say that you can bet that someone else would bitch about the wording.

No matter what President Obama (or any other President) says someone will not like it. Reason 345,788 why being President of the United States is a crappy job.

I am less concerned with what President Obama says about the economy but more interested in what Congress *does*.

I am not sure this current plan will work. In my opinion, it is not the best plan, but it might, just might be "good enough". But it is THE plan and we must all work (as much as any of us small fish can) together to help implement the plan.

The plan will take time to see if it works. Besides Economics is much more an art than a science it seems. I will be doing what ever tiny things I can do to support this plan.... I will also be waiting and observing... and keeping my eye on 3 November 09.

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-21-09, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

The classic head-in-sand approach. Works a treat.

CaptainHaplo · 02-21-09, 07:56 PM

Actually I do see hope and change coming.... And I am not a fan of the President.

Here is why:

His popularity is already plummeting.
His economic policy is already failing to stabilize the markets.
His foreign policy is going nowhere fast.

The public is already becoming disenchanted with the sales schtick he has thrown out - seeing that he cannot deliver.

The public is seeing that he is not the savior - but a politician who will lie to them with a straight face, promise the world and turn his back on those promises.

Many state governments are already looking to find ways of reducing the Federal governments powers.

The public and states are starting to show there IS HOPE yet for our great nation.

As for change - I am seeing that already - with the markets crumbling, investments ceasing, banks failing and debt skyrocketing (Almost $1 TRILLION spent in less than a month in office) - thats actually all about anyone will be seeing - change.... as in coinage.

August · 02-21-09, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

why not say something like as bad as things are, america is still great, we are going to see this through, its always darkest before the dawn, this cloud has a silver lining etc etc

The classic head-in-sand approach. Works a treat.

That's not what he said. Some head coach you are if you don't understand the concept of making a team believe in itself.

Digital_Trucker · 02-21-09, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And if he was telling you everything was ice cream and roses, you'd be bitching that he was out of touch with reality.

Actually, I thought he was out of touch with reality when he made all the promises.

GoldenRivet · 02-21-09, 01:59 PM

yep... same as the rest of them.

the point im trying to make is - if he planned on leading by "hope" and "change" why the hell is he going on and on and on about how bad things are and how they are going to only get worse.

the DJI plunges 100 more points every time he appears on TV and starts throwing fear grenades at everyone

come on ... turn water to cash, or perform some divine obama-ish miracle like you promised. Send us a message of "Hope"

i think his campaign was misunderstood...

...maybe he "Hoped" that by the end of his 4 years everyone wouldnt be left with pocket "change".

EDIT:

apologies to neal... i guess "ape" could have racial connotations... even though Bush was called "chimp" by so many for so long. oh well. I have edited it

IanC · 02-21-09, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Where is all that "hope' you promised?

Is it just me or is Yobama preaching a helluva lot of gloom, doom and fear lately?

the man is an empty box

Umm... are you serious? How long has Obama been in office? Do you realise how long it will take to get out of the mess the US is in?
This is my first time in the General Forum room, and I've already seen a few 'hate on Obama' threads from you. Considering the time in office Obama has been in, and the fact that he has done nothing wrong, you just come off as a hate spewing republican. You can bet Obama will be in office for 8 years, will you be ranting for 8 years GoldenRivet? I almost feel sorry for you buddy.

SUBMAN1 · 02-21-09, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IanC

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Where is all that "hope' you promised?

Is it just me or is Yobama preaching a helluva lot of gloom, doom and fear lately?

the man is an empty box

Umm... are you serious? How long has Obama been in office? Do you realise how long it will take to get out of the mess the US is in?
This is my first time in the General Forum room, and I've already seen a few 'hate on Obama' threads from you. Considering the time in office Obama has been in, and the fact that he has done nothing wrong, you just come off as a hate spewing republican. You can bet Obama will be in office for 8 years, will you be ranting for 8 years GoldenRivet? I almost feel sorry for you buddy.

The people forget - How long was it before they started criticizing Bush? Probably a week. Obama is not starting off so hot and usually the first couple month dictate an entire presidency, so at this rate, he will be lucky with 4 years.

-S

IanC · 02-21-09, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IanC

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Where is all that "hope' you promised?

Is it just me or is Yobama preaching a helluva lot of gloom, doom and fear lately?

the man is an empty box

Umm... are you serious? How long has Obama been in office? Do you realise how long it will take to get out of the mess the US is in?
This is my first time in the General Forum room, and I've already seen a few 'hate on Obama' threads from you. Considering the time in office Obama has been in, and the fact that he has done nothing wrong, you just come off as a hate spewing republican. You can bet Obama will be in office for 8 years, will you be ranting for 8 years GoldenRivet? I almost feel sorry for you buddy.

The people forget - How long was it before they started criticizing Bush? Probably a week. Obama is not starting off so hot and usually the first couple month dictate an entire presidency, so at this rate, he will be lucky with 4 years.

-S

Whuh? Obama is the most popular president since JFK, what are you talking about.
You know what, I can see you guys will drag me into these bizarro arguments, so I'm outta here. You guys keep on hating though...

02-21-09, 11:41 AM	#1
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CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Actually I do see hope and change coming.... And I am not a fan of the President. Here is why: His popularity is already plummeting. His economic policy is already failing to stabilize the markets. His foreign policy is going nowhere fast. The public is already becoming disenchanted with the sales schtick he has thrown out - seeing that he cannot deliver. The public is seeing that he is not the savior - but a politician who will lie to them with a straight face, promise the world and turn his back on those promises. Many state governments are already looking to find ways of reducing the Federal governments powers. The public and states are starting to show there *IS HOPE* yet for our great nation. As for change - I am seeing that already - with the markets crumbling, investments ceasing, banks failing and debt skyrocketing (Almost $1 TRILLION spent in less than a month in office) - thats actually all about anyone will be seeing - change.... as in coinage. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-21-09, 01:59 PM	#12
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	yep... same as the rest of them. the point im trying to make is - if he planned on leading by "hope" and "change" why the hell is he going on and on and on about how bad things are and how they are going to only get worse. the DJI plunges 100 more points every time he appears on TV and starts throwing fear grenades at everyone come on ... turn water to cash, or perform some divine obama-ish miracle like you promised. Send us a message of "Hope" i think his campaign was misunderstood... ...maybe he "Hoped" that by the end of his 4 years everyone wouldnt be left with pocket "change". EDIT: apologies to neal... i guess "ape" could have racial connotations... even though Bush was called "chimp" by so many for so long. oh well. I have edited it __________________ Last edited by GoldenRivet; 02-21-09 at 02:09 PM. Reason: Let's not start that