GWX time compression and air patrols

pythos · 02-03-07, 12:38 PM

This might be common with all mods, but since I have GWX installed I wanted to know if anyone here knew whether or not hight time compression makes the air patrols null and void.

I have really never encountered random air patrols while transiting to my patrol zone. I usually use 64x, for the close to base patrols, but I use 256x to 512x for the atlantic crossings. Does this somehow negate the air patrols in the area?

I am in late 1942

_Seth_ · 02-03-07, 12:41 PM

I think that 128x is the max for the aircrafts to spawn. Anything over this, and there will be no air action, mate!

Lzs von swe · 02-03-07, 12:48 PM

Hmm, I have them coming for me at 512x. Both in vanilla and GWX

_Seth_ · 02-03-07, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzs von swe

Hmm, I have them coming for me at 512x. Both in vanilla and GWX

Thats new to me...Dang, i have to be carefull when running at high TC..

Ducimus · 02-03-07, 01:01 PM

I seriously think that the myth that aircraft don't spawn at higher TC is just that, a myth. Im a Total time compression whore, and ive seen aircraft in just about every incarnation of sh3 ive played.

The REAL danger with Timecompression and aircraft, is not spotting the plane until its right on top of you. That said, i personally beleive the aircraft count in GWX is too low. Most airbases only have 1, sometimes 2 squadrons, whereas in older mods i used to run, such as improved airpower, they'd have 3, to 5 squadrons. Another problem is that theres a very large gap in air coverage in biscay bay, and i also strongly suspect that the AI_Visual's on aircraft arent working very well with the enviormental settings. They seem like their damn near blind if the weather is anything other then calm.

Here i should note that my opinion is based on what i feel are an appropriate number of aircraft, and where aircraft are concerned, im probably masocistic, meaning i expect far more aircraft then what others might expect .

Brag · 02-03-07, 02:09 PM

At high TC I've gotten bombs falling on me before I knew what was happening. Now, I transit high risk zones where air attack is likely at no more than TC 64.

Jimbuna · 02-03-07, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth_

I think that 128x is the max for the aircrafts to spawn. Anything over this, and there will be no air action, mate!

Sorry mate...but they spawn even at x512

_Seth_ · 02-03-07, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth_

I think that 128x is the max for the aircrafts to spawn. Anything over this, and there will be no air action, mate!

Sorry mate...but they spawn even at x512

And i thought i was safe when running above 128...

*Scared*

ReallyDedPoet · 02-03-07, 10:01 PM

Got the crap beaten out of me at 256tc a little earlier tonight. Real nice first patrol in 42'

ReallyDedPoet · 02-04-07, 03:24 PM

Lots of planes in 42'. First patrol, had to CD about four times so far, about a 1\3 of the way through.

High Voltage · 02-03-07, 10:52 PM

I don't understand what the problem is running at higher TC? don't the settings revert to x1 as soon as your lookout spots the aircraft? How is this any different than running the game at lower speeds? Please explain the difference between the two...

Corsair · 02-04-07, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Voltage

I don't understand what the problem is running at higher TC? don't the settings revert to x1 as soon as your lookout spots the aircraft? How is this any different than running the game at lower speeds? Please explain the difference between the two...

The fact that TC is higher means that in the time it takes for the game to revert to TC x1, the planes will be a lot nearer by that time, and therefore you will have less time to react to the attack. So the lowest the TC, the more aircraft you will see but also the sooner you will see them.

ReallyDedPoet · 02-04-07, 07:46 AM

When I was at 256tc I still had enough time to Crash Dive without alot of damage. And yes it does come down to 1x but being being at a higher tc cuts down on your time to prepare, etc

RDP

John Channing · 02-04-07, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Voltage

I don't understand what the problem is running at higher TC? don't the settings revert to x1 as soon as your lookout spots the aircraft? How is this any different than running the game at lower speeds? Please explain the difference between the two...

Think of it this way.

If you are running at 1024X TC then every second in real time is 1024 seconds (17 minutes) in game time. Let's say it takes as little as 1/4 of a second for the game to slow down to 1X. Even that quickly, that is over 4 minutes gone by in game time.

If a plane is closing at 200 MPH, that equals 3+ miles a minute. With the visual distance in the game at 9.6 miles (16KM) that means he will have travelled 12 miles in that quarter second.

The plane will have attacked you before the game can slow down.

JCC

Slick Rick · 02-04-07, 01:31 PM

This is a real problem with TCing....at least it was for me....I would be going along at 256 and the next thing you know....my boat was toast because of a Sunderland attack....so I decided to download SH3 Commander and adjust the TC setting for an air attack....and a few others.....well now that I have done this....I have lost the speech function in the game.....any ideas?????

02-03-07, 12:38 PM	#1
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	GWX time compression and air patrols This might be common with all mods, but since I have GWX installed I wanted to know if anyone here knew whether or not hight time compression makes the air patrols null and void. I have really never encountered random air patrols while transiting to my patrol zone. I usually use 64x, for the close to base patrols, but I use 256x to 512x for the atlantic crossings. Does this somehow negate the air patrols in the area? I am in late 1942

02-03-07, 12:41 PM	#2
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I think that 128x is the max for the aircrafts to spawn. Anything over this, and there will be no air action, mate! __________________

02-03-07, 12:48 PM	#3
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Hmm, I have them coming for me at 512x. Both in vanilla and GWX __________________

02-03-07, 02:09 PM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	At high TC I've gotten bombs falling on me before I knew what was happening. Now, I transit high risk zones where air attack is likely at no more than TC 64. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-03-07, 10:01 PM	#9
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Got the crap beaten out of me at 256tc a little earlier tonight. Real nice first patrol in 42' __________________ Back in the Day

02-03-07, 01:01 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I seriously think that the myth that aircraft don't spawn at higher TC is just that, a myth. Im a Total time compression whore, and ive seen aircraft in just about every incarnation of sh3 ive played. The REAL danger with Timecompression and aircraft, is not spotting the plane until its right on top of you. That said, i personally beleive the aircraft count in GWX is too low. Most airbases only have 1, sometimes 2 squadrons, whereas in older mods i used to run, such as improved airpower, they'd have 3, to 5 squadrons. Another problem is that theres a very large gap in air coverage in biscay bay, and i also strongly suspect that the AI_Visual's on aircraft arent working very well with the enviormental settings. They seem like their damn near blind if the weather is anything other then calm. Here i should note that my opinion is based on what i feel are an appropriate number of aircraft, and where aircraft are concerned, im probably masocistic, meaning i expect far more aircraft then what others might expect .

02-04-07, 03:24 PM	#10
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Lots of planes in 42'. First patrol, had to CD about four times so far, about a 1\3 of the way through. __________________ Back in the Day

02-03-07, 10:52 PM	#11
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't understand what the problem is running at higher TC? don't the settings revert to x1 as soon as your lookout spots the aircraft? How is this any different than running the game at lower speeds? Please explain the difference between the two... __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

02-04-07, 07:46 AM	#13
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	When I was at 256tc I still had enough time to Crash Dive without alot of damage. And yes it does come down to 1x but being being at a higher tc cuts down on your time to prepare, etc RDP __________________ Back in the Day

02-04-07, 01:31 PM	#15
Slick Rick Sonar Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Whats left of Florida Posts: 396 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	This is a real problem with TCing....at least it was for me....I would be going along at 256 and the next thing you know....my boat was toast because of a Sunderland attack....so I decided to download SH3 Commander and adjust the TC setting for an air attack....and a few others.....well now that I have done this....I have lost the speech function in the game.....any ideas????? __________________ Wasserbomb!!!!