Mark 16 wake

Bubblehead1980 · 10-13-20, 07:46 PM

Trying to make the Mark 16 in TMO have no wake since understand is in real life torpedo was wakeless. Someone once made it wakeless visually but ships could still detect it (defeats purpose) and want to remedy this. Have tried but seems messed things up somehow, CTD or does not show up at all. Anyone?

While none were actually used in war, the torpedo was included in the sim, might as well use it. Believe for high cost of renown, the additional explosive power combined with long range and no wake would add to the late war play in the sim. Kind of a waste to use torpedo at long range in daytime or shooting through the screens since wake gives it away, targets change speed course etc. Especially against the convoys on China coast.

Gray Lensman · 10-14-20, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Trying to make the Mark 16 in TMO have no wake since understand is in real life torpedo was wakeless. Someone once made it wakeless visually but ships could still detect it (defeats purpose) and want to remedy this. Have tried but seems messed things up somehow, CTD or does not show up at all. Anyone?

While none were actually used in war, the torpedo was included in the sim, might as well use it. Believe for high cost of renown, the additional explosive power combined with long range and no wake would add to the late war play in the sim. Kind of a waste to use torpedo at long range in daytime or shooting through the screens since wake gives it away, targets change speed course etc. Especially against the convoys on China coast.

Are you confusing this with the Mk18 electric torpedo? The Mk16 was essentially a remake of the Mk14 using the same propellent, hydrogen peroxide. The Mk18 was a wakeless electric torpedo modeled after captured German electric torpedoes

Bubblehead1980 · 10-16-20, 06:20 PM

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Are you confusing this with the Mk18 electric torpedo? The Mk16 was essentially a remake of the Mk14 using the same propellent, hydrogen peroxide. The Mk18 was a wakeless electric torpedo modeled after captured German electric torpedoes

No, talking about Mark 16. Mark 14 was powered by a wet heater steam turbine, left a visible bubble wake. Mark 16, while a remake in many ways of the Mark 14 was powered by hydrogen peroxide, which have read in the past left little to no visible wake. In the game it has the same wake as Mark 14 and 23, making it really not worth the cost once available. Since in the sim there is no gray area, they see the wake or do not, would rather it not have one. Issue is when fixed it long ago, enemy ships still spotted the Mark 16 without a visible wake, but they still saw it. So tried some fixes, clones but did not work.

ETR3(SS) · 10-16-20, 08:27 PM

Mk 16 definitely leaves a wake as it uses a combustion engine.

Bubblehead1980 · 10-16-20, 09:26 PM

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Mk 16 definitely leaves a wake as it uses a combustion engine.

Makes sense, but have read it left very little or no wake. Would that be inaccurate?

KaleunMarco · 10-16-20, 10:02 PM

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Makes sense, but have read it left very little or no wake. Would that be inaccurate?

the only thing that i can think of to convert the Mk16 to act like it has no wake is to borrow the wake data from the Mk18. i believe that data is stored in the Torpedoes_US.dat file although i cannot find the parameter that controls the visible wake. my eyes are crossed at comparing the Mk16 to the Mk18.

Gray Lensman · 10-17-20, 10:40 AM

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Mk 16 definitely leaves a wake as it uses a combustion engine.

The newer Mk48s use an internal combustion engine. Do they leave a wake?

KaleunMarco · 10-17-20, 12:09 PM

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The newer Mk48s use an internal combustion engine. Do they leave a wake?

not my area of expertise but.....didn't we lose the scorpion because of a torpedo battery issue? i realize that the scorpion was not carrying the the "newer" -48 but the -48 has been around a long time.

10-13-20, 07:46 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,103 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Mark 16 wake Trying to make the Mark 16 in TMO have no wake since understand is in real life torpedo was wakeless. Someone once made it wakeless visually but ships could still detect it (defeats purpose) and want to remedy this. Have tried but seems messed things up somehow, CTD or does not show up at all. Anyone? While none were actually used in war, the torpedo was included in the sim, might as well use it. Believe for high cost of renown, the additional explosive power combined with long range and no wake would add to the late war play in the sim. Kind of a waste to use torpedo at long range in daytime or shooting through the screens since wake gives it away, targets change speed course etc. Especially against the convoys on China coast.

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