Boing 777 crash in San Francisco

mapuc · 07-06-13, 02:29 PM

Got no link yet. Have it from the danish news that a Boeing 777 crashed during landing in San Francisco

The plane should be in fire and they don't know if there's any dead or wounded

Markus

Platapus · 07-06-13, 02:33 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/06/us/cal...ent/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06...ional-airport/

Does not appear to be too many details yet.

Best wishes for the passengers, crew, and people on the ground.

mapuc · 07-06-13, 02:41 PM

^ thank you Platapus

Oberon · 07-06-13, 02:48 PM

As strange as it may sound, if you're going to have an unintended interaction with terrain anywhere, the best place to do it is at an airport, the emergency services are top notch and drilled regularly. Here's hoping for no casualties and a swift resolution to the situation.

Platapus · 07-06-13, 03:02 PM

There are reports of "Evacuation slides could be seen extending from one side of the aircraft". That might be a good sign that at least some were able to get out.

CaptainHaplo · 07-06-13, 03:15 PM

From what I can see, it looks like he was too low and slow, he dragged the tail and it broke the arse end off. May all be safe.

Oberon · 07-06-13, 03:39 PM

ATC recording:
http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

TarJak · 07-06-13, 04:35 PM

This report says 291 people accounted for according to a radio scanner who posted on Twitter what they heard on firefighter radio.

http://m.smh.com.au/travel/travel-in...707-2pjm8.html

Hope everyone is safe and uninjured.

Tchocky · 07-06-13, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon

ATC recording:
http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Oberon · 07-06-13, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Everything here is after the inital hit, which supports the tailstrike hypothesis. AAR214 only comes on after reaching the ground. Normally after being cleared to land there's no radio contact until rollout. Sounds like the controller spotted the impact and was quick to reassure the pilot that EMS were on the way.

In most of these events 90% of radio comms is getting other traffic out of the way, creating space and time for the flight crew to do whatever they have to do, and clear the runway/taxiways for emergency vehicles. THat's why you don't hear much from 214.

Yeah, you can hear the very quick instruction to go around, and the climb and maintain altitude given immediately after what I presume is the impact time approximately 40 seconds in, you hear a few raised voices and Skyhawk 737 immediately announces or is told to go around. United 85 asks 'for a few more minutes' and is told to hold short of 28L which is where the 777 crashed.

Oberon · 07-06-13, 05:58 PM

More data, not sure how accurate it is:

(original at - https://twitter.com/sbaker/status/35...494208/photo/1 )

Midnight news on Radio Four just announced 2 dead and 70 injured, some seriously.

TarJak · 07-06-13, 07:01 PM

smh is reporting 2 dead with 60 unaccounted for.

BossMark · 07-07-13, 01:14 AM

Boeing Plane Crash Lands In San Francisco

http://news.sky.com/story/1112466/bo...-san-francisco
Two people have been killed and more than 150 others injured.

Latest update at 5.46 am GMT

TarJak · 07-07-13, 06:17 AM

Press release on Asiana's website: http://flyasiana.com/notice/notice_en.asp

Having worked in the industry I'm always interested to see who different airlines handle these sorts of incidents. The way it is done can make a real difference to whether they stay in business or not.

Catfish · 07-07-13, 06:27 AM

Terrible accident, but from the number of survivors it could have been much worse .. not that this adds any solace.
I read some accounts and it seems sure by now, that the plane came in too low and the tail touched the shoreline, then breaking off. The forward part was virtually uncontrollable with the steering end missing ..
So it was either an automatic landing failure, or a pilot error. Not a plane design fault.

07-06-13, 02:29 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Boing 777 crash in San Francisco Got no link yet. Have it from the danish news that a Boeing 777 crashed during landing in San Francisco The plane should be in fire and they don't know if there's any dead or wounded Markus

07-06-13, 02:33 PM	#2
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/06/us/cal...ent/index.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/06...ional-airport/ Does not appear to be too many details yet. Best wishes for the passengers, crew, and people on the ground. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-06-13, 03:02 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	There are reports of "Evacuation slides could be seen extending from one side of the aircraft". That might be a good sign that at least some were able to get out. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-06-13, 03:15 PM	#6
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	From what I can see, it looks like he was too low and slow, he dragged the tail and it broke the arse end off. May all be safe. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

07-06-13, 05:58 PM	#11
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	More data, not sure how accurate it is: (original at - https://twitter.com/sbaker/status/35...494208/photo/1 ) Midnight news on Radio Four just announced 2 dead and 70 injured, some seriously. Last edited by Oberon; 07-06-13 at 06:27 PM.

07-06-13, 02:41 PM	#3
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,535 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^ thank you Platapus

07-06-13, 02:48 PM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	As strange as it may sound, if you're going to have an unintended interaction with terrain anywhere, the best place to do it is at an airport, the emergency services are top notch and drilled regularly. Here's hoping for no casualties and a swift resolution to the situation.

07-06-13, 03:39 PM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	ATC recording: http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

07-06-13, 04:35 PM	#8
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	This report says 291 people accounted for according to a radio scanner who posted on Twitter what they heard on firefighter radio. http://m.smh.com.au/travel/travel-in...707-2pjm8.html Hope everyone is safe and uninjured.

07-06-13, 07:01 PM	#12
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	smh is reporting 2 dead with 60 unaccounted for.

07-07-13, 01:14 AM	#13
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	Boeing Plane Crash Lands In San Francisco http://news.sky.com/story/1112466/bo...-san-francisco Two people have been killed and more than 150 others injured. Latest update at 5.46 am GMT __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

07-07-13, 06:17 AM	#14
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Press release on Asiana's website: http://flyasiana.com/notice/notice_en.asp Having worked in the industry I'm always interested to see who different airlines handle these sorts of incidents. The way it is done can make a real difference to whether they stay in business or not.

07-07-13, 06:27 AM	#15
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,765 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Terrible accident, but from the number of survivors it could have been much worse .. not that this adds any solace. I read some accounts and it seems sure by now, that the plane came in too low and the tail touched the shoreline, then breaking off. The forward part was virtually uncontrollable with the steering end missing .. So it was either an automatic landing failure, or a pilot error. Not a plane design fault.